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First post, by tomcattech

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I'm bringing back to life a Compaq Presario 5000 5BW112 and have a question about video options.

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The mobo doesn't have an AGP slot but has "integrated" AGP graphics: Intel 810E

Obviously the performance is sub par when matching it with a P3 \ 1 GHz so I'm wondering if I would see an improvement with something like a PCI GeForce FXC 5500?

Any thoughts?

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Reply 1 of 8, by rmay635703

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Intels onboard graphics improved slightly over the years but the 810 vintage was not a high point for Intel . It was more of a media chip for playing back video and had poor compatibility in many cases.

A PCI 3d accelerator that has solid compatibility and drivers should at least make older games run great with fewer bugs, even if the ones intended for a piii are meh.

Remember that even a GEFORCE 2 runs circles around a typical 810, so find a card with best compatibility and not necessarily the last PCI 3d accelerator

Even the SIS 315 PCI 32/64mb and later Xaber 2 are faster

Heck a lowsy Matrox g400 / g450 will give you a better time if you can find the pci version, 🤣

Not tough to beat an 810

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Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS pci

Reply 2 of 8, by avenger_

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Definitely. I have got i815E with additional AIMM VRAM module and still even Voodoo 2 or Banshee is an improvement...

Reply 3 of 8, by Spark

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The i810 isn't horrible, it does a really nice clean 2d picture.
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 280 PCI also works well for Win98, it's equivalent to a GeForce FX 5200 64-bit.
They can be had for quite a bit cheaper than the 5500 last time I checked, but it does need a DMS-59 adapter to go with it.

Reply 4 of 8, by tomcattech

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GeForce 5200 is in and went from a pitiful 620 3d Marks to 3140.

A good gain and I will keep an eye open for a pci 5500 that isn't unobtainium priced....

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Reply 5 of 8, by Putas

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There is no point in 5500 if you have a good 5200.

Reply 6 of 8, by tomcattech

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Putas wrote on Today, 18:38:

There is no point in 5500 if you have a good 5200.

Isn't there a clock speed difference or is the performance gain negligible?

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Reply 7 of 8, by Hoping

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In my view, the 810E is only really suitable for games up to 1999, DX6 – not much more than that. And certainly nothing that uses DX7, for obvious reasons.
When it works, in my opinion, the image quality is very good.

Reply 8 of 8, by avenger_

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2D image quality highly relies on motherboard build quality, but it may be OK indeed. I like my PIII 1GHz + i815 + Voodoo2 12MB machine.

FX 5200 and 5500 are almost the same GPUs (20 MHz core clock difference while the card is mainly bandwith limited - it uses old NV10 memory controller). The most important thing for FX5200/5500 is 400 MHz 128-bit memory - 64-bit variants are much slower (some has 300-333 MHz VRAM as well). But on the other hand, FX5200 128-bit in an overkill for PCI anyway...