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First post, by THEBaratusII

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I do understand that projects like WebOne and Protoweb exist but I am curious if there are projects or methods which involve downloading old snapshots of websites (let alone making fictional websites) and creating your own 'fake' 90s internet using a proxy of some kind. (No internet connection required!)

I am curious because I would've liked to have it I can record my vintage computing footages showcasing more than just playing games and running certain software but also want to keep it a bit period accurate. (If I used 1995 hardware, I would make it look like I am visiting the 3D Realms site circa October 1996)

And even combine the downloaded websites from 1996-1997 with fictional websites for some funny projects. But again, I am wondering how that can be done without dealing with methods like editing the HOSTS file? (I aim for compatibility with multiple browsers and OSes as well)

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Reply 1 of 7, by BitWrangler

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A lot of magazine cover CDs had popular websites archived on them in mid 1990s, 3Drealms was a favorite so you may find it.

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Reply 2 of 7, by gerry

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you'd need to get as much "old" html as possible from archive, websites that somehow still exist, old cover disks and so on then create a home network with old school web server so you can "surf" 90's style. Are you going to do it? If you can get local 1990's to include everything that was in the 90's in a couple hundred mile circle around you then you'll find a bunch of people wanting to move in! 😀

Reply 3 of 7, by Joakim

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Just ask AI to produce a lot of websites with information like: "my name is Jack, I like fishing. Fishing is fun. Here are three good things about fishing: It is nice. I like fish. No women allowed, hahaha, 🤣." add a bunch if broken liks to his favorite mp3s and finally an animated under construction sign to finish it off. True 90s vibe.

Reply 4 of 7, by Jasin Natael

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A wise man once said something about not being able to go home again...

Reply 5 of 7, by THEBaratusII

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BitWrangler wrote on Today, 05:01:

A lot of magazine cover CDs had popular websites archived on them in mid 1990s, 3Drealms was a favorite so you may find it.

Interesting, will have to find some to download and see what I could find.

So far, the closest I went with this idea would be using WebOne for redirecting certain websites to a local version. However what's missing is tricking it into thinking it's actually the domain and not a local URL like "http://127.0.0.1:8080/sites/something/index.html"

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This was done by adding in "AddRedirect" inside an Edit section of a URL.

[Edit:thebaratusii.com]
AddRedirect=http://x.x.x.x:8080/sites/thebaratusii/index.html

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Reply 6 of 7, by Fish3r

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Is it absolutely necessary to run locally? TheOldNet allows you to use it a bit more seamlessly by using a proxy with the port set to a given year https://www.theoldnet.com/docs/httpproxy/index.html

Otherwise you'd need to build it yourself and effectively emulate how these work, I don't think think they or eg. protoweb have made any source code etc. publicly available

Reply 7 of 7, by THEBaratusII

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Fish3r wrote on Today, 17:34:

Is it absolutely necessary to run locally? TheOldNet allows you to use it a bit more seamlessly by using a proxy with the port set to a given year https://www.theoldnet.com/docs/httpproxy/index.html

Otherwise you'd need to build it yourself and effectively emulate how these work, I don't think think they or eg. protoweb have made any source code etc. publicly available

I recall using TheOldNet at one point, but I believe the issue with using that (and I tried this myself just recently) are the websites failing to load due to the traffic limits of the Wayback Machine. Protoweb on the other hand restores websites but I am not sure if they restore based on year and the highest year they normally go for is 2000. Which to me somewhat defeats the purpose of authentically capturing the experience if I am just going to browse the 2000 snapshot of the 3D Realms website on 1995 hardware.

To be fair, I don't plan on emulating every website as much as possible but rather locally emulate a small chunk of websites for the sake of recording those experiences for YouTube projects. Only thing I need to figure out really is tricking the URL into loading the local versions if anything, and I imagine that would require setting up a DNS/DHCP server perhaps?

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