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First post, by douglar

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Back in 2002, I upgraded my aunt’s 486 to an Athlon 700 on an Shuttle AI61 irongate mobo running Windows 98. She used it to do light accounting using peachtree for some local businesses. 24 years later, she’s still using it and the 6GB hard drive is full and she’s been in rehab for 3 months after breaking her hip. She’s getting out in a couple weeks and I offered to upgrade her PC. She still does light accounting work, even after missing tax season this year. I think she’s prefer to stick with Windows 98. Not sure the desire to learn Windows 11 or a new accounting package is there. She turns 90 in a couple months.

Trying to figure out the best upgrade based on things in my cupboard. I got 4 options—

1) Roll the athlon 700 back with a 120GB SSD. Easy and if the system lasted 26 years, it should last another 10 years.
2) Upgrade to a recapped Nforce 2 with a barton CPU. It’s got Win98 drivers, but will it last?
3) G43 motherboard with a Wolfdale CPU and an early pci video card. My Dad was using this board for the last 15 years so the hardware seems pretty solid, but will it be stable running Win 98?
4) HP t610 thin client booting lubuntu that auto starts a full screen win 98 VM. I kind of like the virtualization aspect from a recovery standpoint, but it could get strange.

Any recommendations?

Reply 1 of 5, by the3dfxdude

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Since she'll need a new hard drive, you might as well start there and just add the hard drive?

A few years back, my grandmother was about 90, my aunt bought my grandmother a new PC with a big LCD screen they sell these days, so she can see things better. Of course, since I was there, I was tasked to setting it up. I believe it was Windows 10. And after getting it started, and providing some basics she was looking for, we sat her down and showed her. I wasn't too familiar with using Windows 10 on such a large HIGH DPI screen, and quickly realized, despite being 27" or whatever would have been plenty big, at 2K or 4K resolution, was way more tiny, and to make things worse, the thin lines Windows draw windows, and white everywhere, makes it even hard for me to find the mouse or interact, and causes windowing UI to blur together. It has certainly soured me further on why in the world we moved to high DPI, especially I need to stand like 10 feet back to compensate. Of course I made things sort of better by 2X'ing everything. I certainly felt disabled using it, and I don't have vision issues.

I think in some ways, why rock the boat hardly at all. Just fix and move on. Anything you do will likely last long enough. Sometimes I wish I'd just give my grandmother a DOS PC again, just like I set one up for her over 30 years ago... because all her files she really wanted to still use were from those days.

Reply 2 of 5, by nd22

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1. The easiest way to solve the problem! maybe you could check the board for bad caps, otherwise I would go this route!
2. I have been running for the last 10 years a socket A system with no problems whatsoever. I must point out that the power supply was new back when I build it! The system: Athlon XP 3200; 2*1gb DDR; Abit AN7; geforce 7600gt; 150gb raptor; Corsair RM650 PSU.
3. I would not install Windows 98 on anything beyond socket 754 for AMD and socket 478 for Intel.
4. At my job we tried virtualization and it never worked 100%. We still use original hardware - that is pentium 4/D machines with Windows 2000 to run the equipment! I changed the PSU's to all machines and they still run just fine 21 years after first startup!

Reply 3 of 5, by Nexxen

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I'd add redundancy, raid it to avoid issues.
Mirroring.

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Reply 4 of 5, by douglar

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Thanks for all the suggestions. I’ve been pretty busy lately so doing a backup, the storage upgrade and calling it a day is attractive.

Hard to do the mirror in Win98 unless I use a promise fast track controller. I guess that’s an option. I got the controller and it’s not doing anything.

I might spend a minute on the virtualization option to see how that goes. It’s not like the thin client is doing anything either.

Reply 5 of 5, by st31276a

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I would just put that fasttrak in with two bigger ide disks.