Nunoalex wrote on Today, 11:20:

Alexraptor wrote on Today, 08:59:

Picked up a Matrox G400 in excellent condition. 😀

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Great find!

I have 3 matrox 450 similar to that one, but I think the 400 was actually superior to the 450

It is, yes. I was actually running a G450 Dual Head before i picked this one up. 😀

I also have a G550, but i think i got a bum card, because i get artifacting from it in 3DMark 99, while the G450 and 400 run it just fine.

H3nrik V! wrote on Today, 05:50:

Nicolas 2000 wrote on 2026-04-26, 19:36:

A pair of Matrox Millennium II. A 703-00 Rev A and a 708-01 Rev A. These seem to be quite sought after?

Are they both 8 megabyte versions? In my opinion an 8 megabyte version would be extremely sought after (Yes, I loooove Matrox cards 🤣 )

The 703 is an 8MB version, the 708 a 4MB. Both PCI. The 708 is up for sale, the 703 remains in my bin in case I ever come across an early Pentium build that I want to supercharge.

After some change of thoughts, I now have the following in my spare bin:

-a test PC consisting of a slot-galore P3 733 motherboard, CT4810 sound card (low overhead, just works, quite good with DOS), and the mighty (if you put it in a sufficiently old PC at least 😁) MX460.
-A P3 667 CPU.
-a spare Audigy 2 (I have one in my W98 PC)
-a spare Audigy 2 ZS (I have on in my XP PC)
-a Trio64V+ because one day you'll find yourself in a situation that asks for a "just do it" gpu.
-an 8MB Matrox Millennium II as stated above.
-a 10/100 network card.

All the rest will be up for sale. The MX460 and the 8MB Millennium 2 were the highlights of the lot, the rest mainly was impressive in quantity or nice collateral damage such as a spare Audigy2.

Nicolas 2000 wrote on Today, 13:31:

H3nrik V! wrote on Today, 05:50:

Nicolas 2000 wrote on 2026-04-26, 19:36:

A pair of Matrox Millennium II. A 703-00 Rev A and a 708-01 Rev A. These seem to be quite sought after?

Are they both 8 megabyte versions? In my opinion an 8 megabyte version would be extremely sought after (Yes, I loooove Matrox cards 🤣 )

... The MX460 and the 8MB Millennium 2 were the highlights of the lot, the rest mainly was impressive in quantity or nice collateral damage such as a spare Audigy2.

I agree the MX460 and 8Mb Millenium 2 stand out, but if you are not rating your 128bit TNT and 128bit TNT2 then you're more than welcome to pass them onto me! 😉

Your i740 is noteworthy also: Computer history buffs value it, while game enthusiasts ignore it.

The i740 will always be the first AGP card, the architecture that AGP was designed to support, and the only card that utilises AGP the way the architects intended. It's like the prototype demonstrator of the AGP vision, and that vision was ironically not widely adopted until the PCIe era.

The architects believed VRAM was going to remain prohibitively expensive - they were wrong.
The architects also believed that 3Dfx Voodoo 4Mb would remain the industry benchmark - they were wrong.
The architects believed upcoming games would demand massive detailed textures - they were wrong.

i740 launched into an era characterised by small repeating textures, fill rates arms race, and lots of cheap VRAM - the exact opposite of what it was optimised for. But, there were software demonstrations specifically for use with an i740. The i740 is the grandfather of iGPU. The technologies pioneered in the i740 finally went mainstream in the PCIe era.

It remains to be seen if that TNT2 is 128 bit, and was there a TNT in the lot? I'll have to check.

Edit: no TNT in the lot, only a TNT2.

However, I saw there was also an AGP Millennium 2 with a daughterboard. Is that daughterboard extra RAM, and if so, could I put it on my 8MB PCI version to create a monstrous Millennium 2?

The Dell AGP Millennium is a 4MB 672-04 with a 4MB expansion card. I wonder if that expansion card on the 703-00 would make it (recognize itself as) 12MB?

Nicolas 2000 wrote on Today, 15:34:

The Dell AGP Millennium is a 4MB 672-04 with a 4MB expansion card. I wonder if that expansion card on the 703-00 would make it (recognize itself as) 12MB?

I believe so.

Nicolas 2000 wrote on Today, 15:17:

It remains to be seen if that TNT2 is 128 bit, and was there a TNT in the lot? I'll have to check.

Edit: no TNT in the lot, only a TNT2.

However, I saw there was also an AGP Millennium 2 with a daughterboard. Is that daughterboard extra RAM, and if so, could I put it on my 8MB PCI version to create a monstrous Millennium 2?

Diamond Viper V550 is a TNT (not TNT2). But, if you don't want it please PM me!

https://www.dosdays.co.uk/topics/Manufacturer … _viper_v550.php

Oh is that a TNT in disguise, I didn't know. I'll test them all once -ever- the test PC is up and running.

So I'll put the 4MB expansion on the 8MB Mill2, just to have a 12MB PCI card waiting for an unsuspecting early Pentium.

This way, a nice lot just became an even nicer lot. A 12MB Mill2 is something well above average in my book. I knew there were no voodoo's or anything in the lot, but finds like these elevate it above the "my grandma had one just like it" level.

Nicolas 2000 wrote on Today, 15:54:

Oh is that a TNT in disguise, I didn't know. I'll test them all once -ever- the test PC is up and running.

So I'll put the 4MB expansion on the 8MB Mill2, just to have a 12MB PCI card waiting for an unsuspecting early Pentium.

This way, a nice lot just became an even nicer lot. A 12MB Mill2 is something well above average in my book. I knew there were no voodoo's or anything in the lot, but finds like these elevate it above the "my grandma had one just like it" level.

The Viper 550 is a premium branded TNT that humiliates your M64s. Your newer (and currently unverified) 128bit TNT2 might be only slightly faster . You did okay with that lot.

Thanks for that info! The question in my case is though: is there a point in keeping that V550. For my W98 P3 1000, I aim at faster cards (has a Ti4200) and I have an MX460 as a spare. I don't see myself ever building another PC that already has AGP but is slower than my P3 1000 but not as slow as my hypothetical early Pentium with the 12MB Mill2. So it seems to me that there is in my collection no real use case for it. I'm not looking for something "fast Voodoo" as I already have that in the V2 SLI W98 PC.

I understand the V550 and TNT2 are nice cards, I just don't see where in my spectrum I could ever find a use for them. I don't want 10 PC's, I have no room for them. 3 or 4 is already stretching it. 😀

If you are doing a period correct build for a specific era, there might be use for a card like the V550. If not, then you might as well sell it.

Indeed, that's my conclusion as well. I'm not big on "period correct" in that sense that I've never built a "1997 PC" or something like that. I start from a use case such as "W98 up to DX7" and then throw the most ludicrous hardware that works at it, even if there is a 7 year spread in the hardware used. In the end the game still runs non-emulated on real hardware and that is what I'm after.

So, time to flood the market with 25-30 year old mid spec GPU's! 😁