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First post, by crusher

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Hi everyone,

I'm searching for alternatives to these Roland MA-8 / MA-12C, Altec Lansing etc. speakers as they are quite impossible to get nowadays.
I don't need a sub, 2.0-system is absolutely fine.
I'm searching for little desktop speakers next to my display for gaming purposes.
Sound quality should be good, but I don't need very high volume. Moderate bass is sufficient.

The only requirement would be beige color to fit in my retro setup.
Everything else especially black just don't looks nice because we had 90% beige shells and cases for computer, displays etc. back in the days and I want it to be most authentic as possible.

Thanks for your recommendations.

Reply 1 of 16, by Law212

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I dont know about where you are but I can always find nice sets of cambridge soundworks speakers pretty easily. Some 2.0 some 4.0 and they are authentic for mid 90s . I use a set for my 486 system

Reply 2 of 16, by crusher

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Thanks, I will do a search for them. "Cambridge soundworks" I read now and then when searching for retro speakers.
I'm located in Berlin, germany.

Reply 4 of 16, by dr_st

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Impossible to find speakers?
Heck, I cannot even find pictures of some speakers online. Like the huge Maxxtros in the first photo here:
3 Retro systems (late 90s to mid 00s) - beige, silver, black

For a "noname" brand, they have been remarkably good to me. Loud, nice boomy base, and they still work 25+ years later, after I had the faulty wire spliced.

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Reply 5 of 16, by wierd_w

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I have a set of faux-whoofers that I *still* use.

One of the switches broke inside, but it was easily repaired.

I forget the brand exactly. I'll check when I go home today, but they are beige, and rattle the floor when bass timbre sounds are made. Use a stereo input.

Reply 6 of 16, by Barley

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I've always liked Labtec speakers, but admittedly I am not an audiophile.

Reply 7 of 16, by Law212

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I like anything Creative Labs. While not beige, I still use my Creative Labs 5.1 system not only on my pentium 1 , 3 and 4 but also on my modern PC as well. Sounds great.

Reply 8 of 16, by lti

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I prefer Harman/Kardon, but I remember Creative and Labtec speakers being decent.

Currently, my only beige speakers are Cyber Acoustics MMS-20, but I had to change a few caps, remove the silly amp bypass (where the speakers are connected directly to the input cable when the power switch is off), and replace a driver that smoked (I don't know what I did). My "retro-computer" setup uses a set that I built out of scrap plywood and the buyout section of Parts Express. I could have painted those, but I found a used can of spray polyurethane.

Reply 9 of 16, by wierd_w

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OK, I remembered to check my ancient speakers today.

These things are old. I bought them when I was a teenager in the mid 90s.
benwin BWS30-3D.

Benwin speakers are nothing to write home to mom about, but this pair has held up surprisingly well.

Reply 10 of 16, by shevalier

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Avantone Pro Active MixCubes Pair Retro Cream
ADAM AUDIO A7V (White)
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Adam Audio D3V White
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Reply 11 of 16, by crusher

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Thanks to all!
The Yamaha YST ones are nice and I will also try to find some Labtec speakers over at eBay & Co.

Reply 12 of 16, by NeoG_

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The Cambridge PCWorks 2.1 is a nice system, it does have a sub but it's quite compact so not hard to place or hide, although really benefits from being in a corner on the floor. It sounds better than most PC speakers of the same vintage. You can really hear the bassline hits on the Cyborgirl pinball table.

You will likely need to unscrew the volume controller and spray some contact cleaner into the pot (normal for vintage audio gear TBH). The original bulky power supply can also be replaced with a commodity 12v 1.5A+ power supply from routers and external hard drives - I had a bunch of 5.5mm barrel plug 12v adapters kicking around.

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Reply 13 of 16, by momaka

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Here in South-Eastern Europe, there was a really popular set of speakers by the ambiguous name of "Saturn Amplified Speaker System" that a lot of people had back in the late 90's and early 2000's. They featured a 3" (or was it 3.5"?) woofer and a 1" polypropylene tweeter - very similar setup to the Roland MA-8, but in a bit more "quirky" shape (in fact, I suspect they were made this way on purpose to look/compete with the Roland's.)

If you look up that name, you might see some results or you might not see anything, depending if they were sold in your part of Europe, I don't know.
There's not much info about them online (if any?), but they do sound pretty decent IMO. Their only problem is that they might have yellowed quite a bit and their electrolytic capacitors inside on the amp board should be changed, because they are almost always failed or starting to fail (especially the smaller ones.) That said, even if not recapped, they will still usually work OK. Last weekend, I just grabbed another pair from the local flea market - my 4th one now. 😀 I just can't allow myself to not buy them when they only cost 1-2 Euro usually... and knowing that the scrappers will beat them to pulp to get whatever little metal scrap there is inside (actually, it's not that little - they are very adequately heavy for their size.)

Speaking of Labtec, there was a pair of smaller beige speakers from them too that I didn't grab... and now in hindsight, I really think I should have, just to have something to compare to.

I also have a pair of Teac's in the basement that are awaiting a wash and testing / restoration as well (probably going to take a while to get to them... and they have had all of their cables cut of by the metal scrappers, so I need to source those too.) They don't look as good or as big as the Saturn speakers I described above, though, so might not sound as good either.

lti wrote on 2026-05-01, 01:15:

My "retro-computer" setup uses a set that I built out of scrap plywood and the buyout section of Parts Express. I could have painted those, but I found a used can of spray polyurethane.

Heh, I still remember those back when you posted pictures of them on badcaps.net. Good stuff!
It's been on my mind to build something like that for a very long time now, but I just never set aside any time for it. Otherwise, I have like at least 10 pairs of various TV speakers. Some of these are really nice and about the same size as the Roland MA-8's. They came from top-of-the-line Sony "HD" CRT TVs that I found scrapped on the side of the road / in a dumpster. Best part is they are magnetically shielded, so I can have these next to my CRT monitors and not worry.
Really ought to build them some nice boxes, and I'm sure they will sound pretty good. Might even drive them directly from an old(er) sound card with a built-in speaker output.
Well, someday anyways... 😀

Reply 14 of 16, by jakethompson1

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Many of those canonical cheap (but still better than built in to a modern lcd monitor) speakers from the 90s can be found by looking up "691 computer speaker" - the model number is always some variation of 691 but from a random manufacturer.

Reply 15 of 16, by PD2JK

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These white label speakers were quite popular, it appears there are two versions. With a tweeter, or a fake tweeter.

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I have a pair labeled US Blaster and sound quite good!

They come also labeled as Trust, Juster, Active 85 (or 95, 120), Arowana, Target, Escom, ZoltriXound, Reveal, Sun (no not Sun Microsystems), and so on...

has all kinds of stuff

Reply 16 of 16, by momaka

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jakethompson1 wrote on 2026-05-06, 19:11:

Many of those canonical cheap (but still better than built in to a modern lcd monitor) speakers from the 90s can be found by looking up "691 computer speaker" - the model number is always some variation of 691 but from a random manufacturer.

Heh, I was going to mention those and then forgot.
I can't say that they are worth recommending to anyone.
Though your comment in regards to them sounding better than the built-in speakers in any LCD monitor is right on point. I took mine out of storage not that long ago and had a listen with them. Having worked on various cheaper LCD TVs, I'd go out and say these possibly sound even better than the speakers in those. And the fact that they are still working a quarter of a century later without any fixes is kind of amazing, considering they were "bottom of the barrel" / given away for free regularly.

BTW, mine don't have "691" in the model number. Their M/N is P-203. And brand is "Encore". I believe I even put a proper post about them on badcaps.net (with internal pictures and all), but it seems to be gone now for whatever reason??

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These white label speakers were quite popular, it appears there are two versions. With a tweeter, or a fake tweeter.

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I have a pair labeled US Blaster and sound quite good!

They come also labeled as Trust, Juster, Active 85 (or 95, 120), Arowana, Target, Escom, ZoltriXound, Reveal, Sun (no not Sun Microsystems), and so on...

I think I saw a pair like that on my local flea market as well.
Thank you for posting a picture! If I see one (again), I might grab it just to satisfy my curiosity (and save them from the metal scrappers.)

Speaking of "Juster" speakers, I have one pair (it's actually a 2.1 setup) with a model number of "Boss 3000". 🤣 Definitely 2000's "trendy" stuff.
Unfortunately, it's only a "1.1" setup in my case, as I got these for free off of Craigslist back when I used to live in the US. The Craigslister (and original owner) that gave them to me said he threw away one of the speakers (either left one or right one, I don't remember), because it "never worked". Taking them apart revealed there was an issue with quality control and one of the side speakers was never wired properly internally. Build quality -wise, they are not terrible (the side speaker defect aside). But sound-wise, the woofer... leave a lot to be desired. It's actually not underpowered in any way. But the crossover "preamp" is implemented in such a poor way that it comically distorts the bass that I can't describe with words.