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Reply 120 of 165, by PcBytes

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So far the best sticks I have for the KG7 are ECC Samsung TCA2s (which may possibly be anti-OC 🤣), and for the upcoming NF7 I have the following choices:

- Kingmax 2x512MB "WNAS" - Hynix CTP-D43 - good for 250MHz according to this
- Elixir 2x512MB ELX-DDR512M400
- Kingston, 2x512MB, KVR400X64C3A/512 - D3208DLECTG5AU - no idea what these were rebrands of, or if they're Kingston's own chips
- Samsung 2x512MB PC3200U CL3 - TCCC
- Kingston KVR266X64C2/1G, 2 sticks - UCCC

Will have to check which of them withstand OCs better, it's a good thing that above everything else the Barton 2500 included w/ the NF7 is a unlocked chip.

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Reply 121 of 165, by _digitalbath

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supercordo wrote on 2026-05-26, 16:59:

Oddly enough the 2 MSI delta boards came with some BH-5 ram. An odd stick of Kingston with ram on both sides but only 8 chips and khx3200/256. The odd stick doesnt boot at 2-2-2-11 but the khx3200/256 does and is currently booting at 250fsb in single channel since i only have one stick. haha

The CL2.5 / 166MHz stick has probably CH-type chips. The BH-5 stick looks promising. Nice!

PcBytes wrote on 2026-05-26, 17:27:
So far the best sticks I have for the KG7 are ECC Samsung TCA2s (which may possibly be anti-OC lol), and for the upcoming NF7 I […]
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So far the best sticks I have for the KG7 are ECC Samsung TCA2s (which may possibly be anti-OC 🤣), and for the upcoming NF7 I have the following choices:

- Kingmax 2x512MB "WNAS" - Hynix CTP-D43 - good for 250MHz according to this
- Elixir 2x512MB ELX-DDR512M400
- Kingston, 2x512MB, KVR400X64C3A/512 - D3208DLECTG5AU - no idea what these were rebrands of, or if they're Kingston's own chips
- Samsung 2x512MB PC3200U CL3 - TCCC
- Kingston KVR266X64C2/1G, 2 sticks - UCCC

Will have to check which of them withstand OCs better, it's a good thing that above everything else the Barton 2500 included w/ the NF7 is a unlocked chip.

The CTP chips seems to be decent. I had a kit that does about cl2,5 -3-3-8 / 240MHz. I guess it depents on the bin of the chips.
Elixir (=Nanya!) CT-5T or CS-5T should be fine. They clock simmilar to Infineon CE-5.
A photo of the Kingston chips may help to figure out the manufacturer of the chips. Kingston nas never manufactured any chips. Neither have Geil, Mushkin, Twinmos, or Corsair.
I would try the UCCC Chips. They will only clock at 3-3-3-8 or 3-4-4-8 timings but they may reach 250MHz.

Reply 122 of 165, by PcBytes

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Some of the RAM sticks mentioned before.

- Kingston KVR, 2x512MB PC3200 CL3

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- Samsung TCCC, 2x512 CL3.

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Reply 123 of 165, by PcBytes

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And:
- few of the many Sycrons I have. One of their older 256MB stick uses Mosel Vitelic. The generic tagged chips on the 512MB stick I have no idea who makes them, although I do know almost 99% of their sticks use Brainpower PCBs (easily tellable by the "BP" sign on the backside.

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-some Kingmaxes, the usual deal rather than the CTP-D43s I managed to find. No idea who provides ICs for these either.

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Reply 124 of 165, by supercordo

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DarthSun wrote on 2026-05-10, 17:58:
I'll get involved later, I have other projects going on right now. I have a few parts that could be a good fit. […]
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I'll get involved later, I have other projects going on right now.
I have a few parts that could be a good fit.

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I suddenly found a P4 result.

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Reply 125 of 165, by cyclone3d

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I've got some projects I am working on but I do have an Epox 8VTAI (KT880) that I need to test and see how good it will overclock.

I also have an ASUS A78NX v 2.0 on the way so I can play with Nforce 2 Ultra overclocking.

Also have a bunch of RAM including some OCZ PC4000. Need to go through the bin of DDR1 and see if I have any other good stuff.

Video card I will probably use is a card sold as a Geforce 7800 GS, but it should actually be a 7800 GT if I remember correctly. Got some other stuff I can test with as well.

I think the best CPUs I have are Barton 2800+ Mobile ( pretty sure I have 4 of these).

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Reply 126 of 165, by DarthSun

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supercordo wrote on 2026-05-27, 00:56:
DarthSun wrote on 2026-05-10, 17:58:
I'll get involved later, I have other projects going on right now. I have a few parts that could be a good fit. […]
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I'll get involved later, I have other projects going on right now.
I have a few parts that could be a good fit.

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I suddenly found a P4 result.

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Where you at DarthSun?? Come play.

I'll come, right now the SS7 is still at the test station, it will take a while for me to break the world record 🤣

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Reply 127 of 165, by _digitalbath

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PcBytes wrote on 2026-05-26, 19:59:

Some of the RAM sticks mentioned before.

My guess is, the left stick is Elpida, the right one could be Infineon, Mosel Vitelic or ProMos. Its hard to say.

PcBytes wrote on 2026-05-26, 20:05:

And:
- few of the many Sycrons I have. One of their older 256MB stick uses Mosel Vitelic. The generic tagged chips on the 512MB stick I have no idea who makes them, although I do know almost 99% of their sticks use Brainpower PCBs (easily tellable by the "BP" sign on the backside.

The BP PCBs are nice!
My red Kingmax sticks had most of the time Elpida Chips. That might be the case here as well. Probably not all. One looks like Promos. The Metal dots on the side may help to identify.
No clue about the Sycron Chips. It could be Hynix.

Here are some pictures of DDR1 chips for comparison.
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Reply 128 of 165, by tehsiggi

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So I pulled that Athlon XP-M 2500 from my donor notebook and slapped it onto the K7S8X Rev1 - let's say it's just not happy with it.. Multi is fixed to 14 (bridges don't work) and everything back to the beginnings.. I'm waiting for my K7S8X R3.0 to arrive, because why not. In the meantime I just wanted to see how happy or not happy the 2500 might be, so I put it onto my A7N8X I had laying around for ages..

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I did 2 quick tries - not up there with the boys yet, however I'm still using the stock AMD cooler + a server FAN as the 3d printed parts for the watercooling are still on their merry way.

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So long..

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Reply 129 of 165, by _digitalbath

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tehsiggi wrote on 2026-05-27, 11:54:

So I pulled that Athlon XP-M 2500 from my donor notebook and slapped it onto the K7S8X Rev1 - let's say it's just not happy with it.. Multi is fixed to 14 (bridges don't work) and everything back to the beginnings.. I'm waiting for my K7S8X R3.0 to arrive, because why not. In the meantime I just wanted to see how happy or not happy the 2500 might be, so I put it onto my A7N8X I had laying around for ages..

The BIOSes on Socket A boards reacts different when you power them up with a XP-M CPU. AWARD BIOSes starts up with the default multiplier (=6x on XP-M CPUs) and AMI BIOSes (except K7NF2-RAID) start the XP-M CPUs with their max. multi (=14x).
That makes it odd to overclock a XP-M CPU on a K7S8X board. Even you can change the multi onthefly in windows with tools. ASRock knew this and programmed for their K7S8XE+ boards a setting to change the multi in BIOS. That makes the board unique as it should be the only board that has two options to change multi; with jumpers on the PCB and the setting in BIOS.

My K7S8X ver.3 is able to clock up to 200MHz FSB in stable condition (performace BIOS). Good luck!

Reply 130 of 165, by supercordo

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Happy little mosfets.

Reply 131 of 165, by tehsiggi

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supercordo wrote on 2026-05-27, 13:09:

Happy little mosfets.

If you do not install the board into a case (or have plenty of space behind it in the area of the FETs) add a heatsink at the back of the board. Heat is more effectively transported away there. The front of the case is basically just a cap to protect the semiconductor inside, it's a terrible thermal conductor.

_digitalbath wrote on 2026-05-27, 12:59:

Even you can change the multi onthefly in windows with tools.

Yeah, the issue just being that the CPU is clocked into oblivion until I get there 😁

It's sad that I don't have contact to abo anymore (the guy who wrote SetFSB) - he added some PLL back in the day for me for my Acer Extensa 5220. The Rev 1 uses a cypress PLL which even has a datasheet. That would enable clock settings under windows. +sigh+ A man can dream..

_digitalbath wrote on 2026-05-27, 12:59:

My K7S8X ver.3 is able to clock up to 200MHz FSB in stable condition (performace BIOS). Good luck!

I had a K7S8X Rev.3 back in the day as well, running at 200+ MHz - so I'm eager to get my hands on one again 😀

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Reply 132 of 165, by _digitalbath

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tehsiggi wrote on 2026-05-27, 13:23:

Yeah, the issue just being that the CPU is clocked into oblivion until I get there 😁

It's sad that I don't have contact to abo anymore (the guy who wrote SetFSB) - he added some PLL back in the day for me for my Acer Extensa 5220. The Rev 1 uses a cypress PLL which even has a datasheet. That would enable clock settings under windows. +sigh+ A man can dream..

Google for a tool named "CPUFSB". It should be able to change the FSB in Windows. It is a shareware product, but it is really nice and easy to handle.
Afaik my rev.3 board uses also a cypress pll chip. Looking in the datasheet, it was made to support an async FSB / PCI clock mode. Sadly the board doesn't use it.

Reply 133 of 165, by tehsiggi

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_digitalbath wrote on 2026-05-27, 13:32:
tehsiggi wrote on 2026-05-27, 13:23:

Yeah, the issue just being that the CPU is clocked into oblivion until I get there 😁

It's sad that I don't have contact to abo anymore (the guy who wrote SetFSB) - he added some PLL back in the day for me for my Acer Extensa 5220. The Rev 1 uses a cypress PLL which even has a datasheet. That would enable clock settings under windows. +sigh+ A man can dream..

Google for a tool named "CPUFSB". It should be able to change the FSB in Windows. It is a shareware product, but it is really nice and easy to handle.
Afaik my rev.3 board uses also a cypress pll chip. Looking in the datasheet, it was made to support an async FSB / PCI clock mode. Sadly the board doesn't use it.

Did that work with your K7S8X? I'm a bit tempted right now to test this. But I think I'd leave the XP-M on the A7N8X for now for testing that.. just need to grab another cooler.. the ThermalTake Sonic Tower is just a PITA to install on the board, but it's iirc the only second cooler I have laying around.

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Reply 134 of 165, by _digitalbath

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tehsiggi wrote on 2026-05-27, 14:06:

Did that work with your K7S8X? I'm a bit tempted right now to test this. But I think I'd leave the XP-M on the A7N8X for now for testing that.. just need to grab another cooler.. the ThermalTake Sonic Tower is just a PITA to install on the board, but it's iirc the only second cooler I have laying around.

Yes, but with a usual unlocked XP. I guess it will not work with the XP-M CPU. At least not clocking a from 133MHz to 200MHz in windows.

Reply 135 of 165, by tehsiggi

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_digitalbath wrote on 2026-05-27, 18:31:
tehsiggi wrote on 2026-05-27, 14:06:

Did that work with your K7S8X? I'm a bit tempted right now to test this. But I think I'd leave the XP-M on the A7N8X for now for testing that.. just need to grab another cooler.. the ThermalTake Sonic Tower is just a PITA to install on the board, but it's iirc the only second cooler I have laying around.

Yes, but with a usual unlocked XP. I guess it will not work with the XP-M CPU. At least not clocking a from 133MHz to 200MHz in windows.

Worth a shot.. I'll mount that sonic tower tomorrow..

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Reply 137 of 165, by classic_cola

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Hmm, I might join in at the weekend.

I have technically one of the best (nForce2) chipset boards, complete with 1GB of DDR, that is completely gimped by the fact it came from an OEM prebuild and the BIOS has literally zero tuning options, nor do jumpers exist for such things on the board itself.

I use it a bit anachronistically with a Morgan Duron 950 and an Athlon Thunderbird 1200.

I think I've had the TBird up to about 1400 with a desktop OC, but it's been a minute.

Reply 138 of 165, by cyclone3d

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classic_cola wrote on 2026-05-27, 21:05:
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Hmm, I might join in at the weekend.

I have technically one of the best (nForce2) chipset boards, complete with 1GB of DDR, that is completely gimped by the fact it came from an OEM prebuild and the BIOS has literally zero tuning options, nor do jumpers exist for such things on the board itself.

I use it a bit anachronistically with a Morgan Duron 950 and an Athlon Thunderbird 1200.

I think I've had the TBird up to about 1400 with a desktop OC, but it's been a minute.

Can you cross-flash it to the retail board BIOS.

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Reply 139 of 165, by PcBytes

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I'll also join on the Barton "bandwagon" soon enough. I'm getting some nForce 2 action soon 🤣 I also got a 7800GS AGP that I hope it'll cooperate.

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