cyclone3d wrote on 2026-05-27, 23:41:

classic_cola wrote on 2026-05-27, 21:05:

Hmm, I might join in at the weekend. […]
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Hmm, I might join in at the weekend.

I have technically one of the best (nForce2) chipset boards, complete with 1GB of DDR, that is completely gimped by the fact it came from an OEM prebuild and the BIOS has literally zero tuning options, nor do jumpers exist for such things on the board itself.

I use it a bit anachronistically with a Morgan Duron 950 and an Athlon Thunderbird 1200.

I think I've had the TBird up to about 1400 with a desktop OC, but it's been a minute.

Can you cross-flash it to the retail board BIOS.

I've considered it, but without a TL-866 currently on hand, I'm not brave enough.

My board was made by FIC for use in HP OEM systems; the FIC Skyhawk-L - it DOES look similar in layout to FIC AU31-L, and has the same chipset, identical I/O and expansion slots. But there are a couple of things that are different, the most major being, they seem to use different super I/O chips.

Next time I have a programmer I'll probably go for it.

classic_cola wrote on Yesterday, 00:56:

I've considered it, but without a TL-866 currently on hand, I'm not brave enough. […]
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cyclone3d wrote on 2026-05-27, 23:41:

classic_cola wrote on 2026-05-27, 21:05:

Hmm, I might join in at the weekend. […]
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Hmm, I might join in at the weekend.

I have technically one of the best (nForce2) chipset boards, complete with 1GB of DDR, that is completely gimped by the fact it came from an OEM prebuild and the BIOS has literally zero tuning options, nor do jumpers exist for such things on the board itself.

I use it a bit anachronistically with a Morgan Duron 950 and an Athlon Thunderbird 1200.

I think I've had the TBird up to about 1400 with a desktop OC, but it's been a minute.

Can you cross-flash it to the retail board BIOS.

I've considered it, but without a TL-866 currently on hand, I'm not brave enough.

My board was made by FIC for use in HP OEM systems; the FIC Skyhawk-L - it DOES look similar in layout to FIC AU31-L, and has the same chipset, identical I/O and expansion slots. But there are a couple of things that are different, the most major being, they seem to use different super I/O chips.

Next time I have a programmer I'll probably go for it.

That has a nforce2 IGP chipset. Those usually aren't really good for overclocking, unfortunately.

supercordo wrote on Yesterday, 01:20:

classic_cola wrote on Yesterday, 00:56:

I've considered it, but without a TL-866 currently on hand, I'm not brave enough. […]
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cyclone3d wrote on 2026-05-27, 23:41:

Can you cross-flash it to the retail board BIOS.

I've considered it, but without a TL-866 currently on hand, I'm not brave enough.

My board was made by FIC for use in HP OEM systems; the FIC Skyhawk-L - it DOES look similar in layout to FIC AU31-L, and has the same chipset, identical I/O and expansion slots. But there are a couple of things that are different, the most major being, they seem to use different super I/O chips.

Next time I have a programmer I'll probably go for it.

That has a nforce2 IGP chipset. Those usually aren't really good for overclocking, unfortunately.

Yes, and that's what my current board has; just with zero OC options due to the HP BIOS. Desktop OC works reasonably well, but would be nice to have BIOS level options.

No go with the 7800GS on trying to redo the KG7 bench again.

- AGP Fastwrites enabled result in XP blackscreening mere seconds after desktop
- option disabled and it hangs on a black screen before the kernel passes the process on to the logon sequence. (as in, before you get any sort of cursor onscreen)

Haven't tried AGP2x mode. Pretty sure it's the chipset being picky, as I had the card run fine on a P4B533-E/ P4 2.666 (SL7PE) prior to setting it up on the T-Bird.

PcBytes wrote on Yesterday, 03:58:

No go with the 7800GS on trying to redo the KG7 bench again. […]
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No go with the 7800GS on trying to redo the KG7 bench again.

- AGP Fastwrites enabled result in XP blackscreening mere seconds after desktop
- option disabled and it hangs on a black screen before the kernel passes the process on to the logon sequence. (as in, before you get any sort of cursor onscreen)

Haven't tried AGP2x mode. Pretty sure it's the chipset being picky, as I had the card run fine on a P4B533-E/ P4 2.666 (SL7PE) prior to setting it up on the T-Bird.

AGP wild wild west era will do that. Your 7800gs is .8v your motherboard supports 1.5v

My Infineon AT6 ram arrived today!!!! Time to play some more!!!

Prepping some RAM too as first NF7 arrives tomorrow along the unlocked 2500.

-Buffalo DD4003-1G/BJ -> Hynix CTP-D43 (remarked)
- Super Elixir - Nanya BS-5T
- Nanya - AT-7K
- ValueRAM 256MB KVR400X64C3 - Mosel Vitelic AT5B
- Sycron SY-MDDR256M400 - same ICs, will be run alongside the KVR
- Elixir pairs! - C3G use CT-5T chips, B3G use BT-5T
- Infineon AT-7.5 - PC2100 version of the above stick.
- Qimonda DE-5 1GB

Alongside the sticks posted earlier. The first ones up on the block will be the red CTP-D43 Kingmaxes as they have proven VERY well performing on my P4B533-E.

PcBytes wrote on Yesterday, 22:20:

Prepping some RAM too as first NF7 arrives tomorrow along the unlocked 2500. […]
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Prepping some RAM too as first NF7 arrives tomorrow along the unlocked 2500.

-Buffalo DD4003-1G/BJ -> Hynix CTP-D43 (remarked)
- Super Elixir - Nanya BS-5T
- Nanya - AT-7K
- ValueRAM 256MB KVR400X64C3 - Mosel Vitelic AT5B
- Sycron SY-MDDR256M400 - same ICs, will be run alongside the KVR
- Elixir pairs! - C3G use CT-5T chips, B3G use BT-5T
- Infineon AT-7.5 - PC2100 version of the above stick.
- Qimonda DE-5 1GB

Alongside the sticks posted earlier. The first ones up on the block will be the red CTP-D43 Kingmaxes as they have proven VERY well performing on my P4B533-E.

Good luck! Hopefully you find some that can run at 2-2-2-5

PcBytes wrote on Yesterday, 22:20:

Prepping some RAM too as first NF7 arrives tomorrow along the unlocked 2500. […]
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Prepping some RAM too as first NF7 arrives tomorrow along the unlocked 2500.

-Buffalo DD4003-1G/BJ -> Hynix CTP-D43 (remarked)
- Super Elixir - Nanya BS-5T
- Nanya - AT-7K
- ValueRAM 256MB KVR400X64C3 - Mosel Vitelic AT5B
- Sycron SY-MDDR256M400 - same ICs, will be run alongside the KVR
- Elixir pairs! - C3G use CT-5T chips, B3G use BT-5T
- Infineon AT-7.5 - PC2100 version of the above stick.
- Qimonda DE-5 1GB

Alongside the sticks posted earlier. The first ones up on the block will be the red CTP-D43 Kingmaxes as they have proven VERY well performing on my P4B533-E.

Vote for the AT-7.5!
Are you sure about the Buffalo stick are Hynix? It looks like the chips have only two dots on each side? Maybe my eyes trick me.

So news from the K7S8X Rev. 1.02 front:

- Watercooling fits like a glove and works nice
- The board can be clocked under windows using CPUFSB, thanks for the hint!
- The board is just bad at everything. Way worse than my old REV3.0

It doesn't work with CPU clocks and memory clocks that are proven to work with the parts themselves.

I'm waiting on the REV3 to arrive, I'm tempted to put the watercooling onto the A7N8X, but weekend is around the corner.

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PcBytes wrote on Yesterday, 22:20:

Prepping some RAM too as first NF7 arrives tomorrow along the unlocked 2500. […]
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Prepping some RAM too as first NF7 arrives tomorrow along the unlocked 2500.

-Buffalo DD4003-1G/BJ -> Hynix CTP-D43 (remarked)
- Super Elixir - Nanya BS-5T
- Nanya - AT-7K
- ValueRAM 256MB KVR400X64C3 - Mosel Vitelic AT5B
- Sycron SY-MDDR256M400 - same ICs, will be run alongside the KVR
- Elixir pairs! - C3G use CT-5T chips, B3G use BT-5T
- Infineon AT-7.5 - PC2100 version of the above stick.
- Qimonda DE-5 1GB

Alongside the sticks posted earlier. The first ones up on the block will be the red CTP-D43 Kingmaxes as they have proven VERY well performing on my P4B533-E.

Vote for the AT-7.5!
Are you sure about the Buffalo stick are Hynix? It looks like the chips have only two dots on each side? Maybe my eyes trick me.

Pretty sure. Found a google match for my stick where the chips come up as CTP-D43s, on RAM-Co-Shop. Also looked at the dots and they're 4 (although I admit they're hard to notice), just like the red Kingmaxes from earlier.

I just learned that you can, without any troubles, install an K7S8XE bios for the K7S8X REV 1.02 - works just fine.

Barton 2500+ run. The unlocked chip seems to actually be locked so it got discarded for a 2004 one that I knew it'd take some FSB clocking.

RAM - Kingmax CTP-D43 2x512MB, 3-3-3-2.5 -> I might try CL2 since it seems to give me the option.

Issues - CPU-Z would freeze everytime when loading (at the Processor mark) I tried opening so I had to switch to HWINFO.

Will try to bump up the FSB later and see if I can squeeze some more from it. BIOS used is stock 27, have not switched to Merlin (or any other modbios) yet.

PcBytes wrote on Today, 15:29:

Barton 2500+ run. The unlocked chip seems to actually be locked so it got discarded for a 2004 one that I knew it'd take some FS […]
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Barton 2500+ run. The unlocked chip seems to actually be locked so it got discarded for a 2004 one that I knew it'd take some FSB clocking.

RAM - Kingmax CTP-D43 2x512MB, 3-3-3-2.5 -> I might try CL2 since it seems to give me the option.

Issues - CPU-Z would freeze everytime when loading (at the Processor mark) I tried opening so I had to switch to HWINFO.

Will try to bump up the FSB later and see if I can squeeze some more from it. BIOS used is stock 27, have not switched to Merlin (or any other modbios) yet.

The attachment x850 3-3-3-25 NF7 barton 2500.PNG is no longer available

Need to use an older version of CPU-Z. I cant accept the score without it. Its the rules.

supercordo wrote on Today, 15:36:

PcBytes wrote on Today, 15:29:

Barton 2500+ run. The unlocked chip seems to actually be locked so it got discarded for a 2004 one that I knew it'd take some FS […]
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Barton 2500+ run. The unlocked chip seems to actually be locked so it got discarded for a 2004 one that I knew it'd take some FSB clocking.

RAM - Kingmax CTP-D43 2x512MB, 3-3-3-2.5 -> I might try CL2 since it seems to give me the option.

Issues - CPU-Z would freeze everytime when loading (at the Processor mark) I tried opening so I had to switch to HWINFO.

Will try to bump up the FSB later and see if I can squeeze some more from it. BIOS used is stock 27, have not switched to Merlin (or any other modbios) yet.

The attachment x850 3-3-3-25 NF7 barton 2500.PNG is no longer available

Need to use an older version of CPU-Z. I cant accept the score without it. Its the rules.

Went as old as 1.63, all freeze at the Processor load screen. By freeze, the whole system locks up, not just CPU-Z.

PcBytes wrote on Today, 15:47:

supercordo wrote on Today, 15:36:

PcBytes wrote on Today, 15:29:

Barton 2500+ run. The unlocked chip seems to actually be locked so it got discarded for a 2004 one that I knew it'd take some FS […]
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Barton 2500+ run. The unlocked chip seems to actually be locked so it got discarded for a 2004 one that I knew it'd take some FSB clocking.

RAM - Kingmax CTP-D43 2x512MB, 3-3-3-2.5 -> I might try CL2 since it seems to give me the option.

Issues - CPU-Z would freeze everytime when loading (at the Processor mark) I tried opening so I had to switch to HWINFO.

Will try to bump up the FSB later and see if I can squeeze some more from it. BIOS used is stock 27, have not switched to Merlin (or any other modbios) yet.

The attachment x850 3-3-3-25 NF7 barton 2500.PNG is no longer available

Need to use an older version of CPU-Z. I cant accept the score without it. Its the rules.

Went as old as 1.63, all freeze at the Processor load screen. By freeze, the whole system locks up, not just CPU-Z.

I use 1.54

supercordo wrote on Today, 15:49:

PcBytes wrote on Today, 15:47:

supercordo wrote on Today, 15:36:

Need to use an older version of CPU-Z. I cant accept the score without it. Its the rules.

Went as old as 1.63, all freeze at the Processor load screen. By freeze, the whole system locks up, not just CPU-Z.

I use 1.54

I lurk around with 1.53 and 1.54, my go to trusted versions.

1.54 seems to do the trick and is probably the only one that doesn't freeze. Anything past that seems to have the same effect as 1.63 and up - freezes at processor.

Anyways, 2nd Barton run. Anything past this doesn't seem to get to Windows although it does POST. The D43s I have are pushed to their absolute limit. 2-2-2-2.5 won't work, 3-3-3-2.5 seems to be their limit, which I guess is quite better than even the list on HardwareLuxx, where these were rated for 3-4-4-x.

Again, stock NF7 BIOS 27. No modded BIOS were used.

PcBytes wrote on Today, 16:12:

1.54 seems to do the trick and is probably the only one that doesn't freeze. Anything past that seems to have the same effect as […]
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1.54 seems to do the trick and is probably the only one that doesn't freeze. Anything past that seems to have the same effect as 1.63 and up - freezes at processor.

Anyways, 2nd Barton run. Anything past this doesn't seem to get to Windows although it does POST. The D43s I have are pushed to their absolute limit. 2-2-2-2.5 won't work, 3-3-3-2.5 seems to be their limit, which I guess is quite better than even the list on HardwareLuxx, where these were rated for 3-4-4-x.

The attachment x850 3-3-3-25 NF7 barton 2500.PNG is no longer available

Again, stock NF7 BIOS 27. No modded BIOS were used.

Now just lower your multiplier and increase the FSB.

PcBytes wrote on Today, 11:09:

Pretty sure. Found a google match for my stick where the chips come up as CTP-D43s, on RAM-Co-Shop. Also looked at the dots and they're 4 (although I admit they're hard to notice), just like the red Kingmaxes from earlier.

Ah, okay. I didn't see the other dots!

supercordo wrote on Today, 15:49:

I use 1.54

I use the vintage version. Works perfectly for me.

PcBytes wrote on Today, 16:12:

1.54 seems to do the trick and is probably the only one that doesn't freeze. Anything past that seems to have the same effect as […]
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1.54 seems to do the trick and is probably the only one that doesn't freeze. Anything past that seems to have the same effect as 1.63 and up - freezes at processor.

Anyways, 2nd Barton run. Anything past this doesn't seem to get to Windows although it does POST. The D43s I have are pushed to their absolute limit. 2-2-2-2.5 won't work, 3-3-3-2.5 seems to be their limit, which I guess is quite better than even the list on HardwareLuxx, where these were rated for 3-4-4-x.

The attachment x850 3-3-3-25 NF7 barton 2500.PNG is no longer available

Again, stock NF7 BIOS 27. No modded BIOS were used.

The CPU is doing very well. Nice!
Yes, this is a good result for Hynix CTP. Maybe you need to relax the timings to 2,5-4-4-8 to get further.