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First post, by Rav

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Hi.

Yesterday I finally fixed my M919 after all that time I had it!
Well, the Clock don't tick when it's off (it save cmos setting just fine) but it's probably something else

BUT

Of course I did try to OC the hell out of it like any computer I got so I put the FSB to 60Mhz thinking my 32MB stick of FPM 60ns would fail.
But to my surprise, it booted (1 read ws, 0 write ws).

Then I proceeded to do a battery of test (as in the screen shot).
It worked fine without issue (for config 0 and config 1, see screenshot).
Then during the test of config 2, I got a crash in pcpbench and in quake... I was thinking.. Well, the PCI is at 40Mhz, the el cheapo SIS 6326 AGP not AGP don't like it... Let's swap it for my S3 Vision 968...

Other than the fact that the S3 is way more fast, It also crash in the same bench, also doom now....

I ended up switching back to config 0, to redo my initial test. Guess what? I can't finish a pcpbench, nor a doom or quake bench, it crash every single time.

Setting my memory to 3ws/3ws allow me to finish a round of pcpbench or two before a crash but....

Why I worked so well in the first try? I did initially think I degraded my ram or cpu (they where well ventiled...) But I have no issue running the Cyrix at 120 (fsb40) or 100 (fsb50). Even yet, my ram still work fine at fsb50 with 0ws/0ws.

Was I just super lucky that I managed to run thru two battery of bench without any issue for some reason? That's still very... weird...
Now I can't even do a memtest with 60fps/3ws/3ws...

Can someone recommand me something else to test for that board? I don't think swapping bios would change a thing... I do plan to get 50ns EDO but... Why it just worked so fine initially... I did not overvolt anything. The CPU is at 3.5v (board jumpers are set to 3.3v... Voltage is stable even during load.)

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Reply 1 of 5, by Rav

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Finally got memtest to run, failing test 0, I think it's the first time I see that. It the same address that fail.

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Reply 2 of 5, by Rav

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Well, I removed the fan and now I can run all the benchs in a row... Everything maxed out and 40MHz fsb... (did not manage that since yesterday after many try and different configuration test)
Yep, I just remembered that yesterday I began the benchs without a fan but I did find the cpu heatsink a little too warm to my taste and now that I think about it, it's when I stopped being able to bench...

Something in there like to be a little toasty! It's probably the limit of "stable" can be and somehow, heat (somewhere), help...

Reply 3 of 5, by Thermalwrong

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Rav wrote on 2026-05-31, 01:29:

Well, I removed the fan and now I can run all the benchs in a row... Everything maxed out and 40MHz fsb... (did not manage that since yesterday after many try and different configuration test)
Yep, I just remembered that yesterday I began the benchs without a fan but I did find the cpu heatsink a little too warm to my taste and now that I think about it, it's when I stopped being able to bench...

Something in there like to be a little toasty! It's probably the limit of "stable" can be and somehow, heat (somewhere), help...

With the RAM issues you're seeing and the fact that keeping the board cool has negative effects on stability, it's quite likely to be a loose pin on one of the UMC chips. I assume your board is one of the later revisions with the COAST module slot and the 'cache' being 2x rectangular chips by the memory slots?

On at least one of my M919 boards, the UM8881F chip by the memory slots had some loose legs and reflowing the solder on those pins to make sure they were all making good contact, resolved the no-post issue I was seeing unless the board was pressed in the right spot.

Your issue is less bad but it being dependant on a warm board suggests thermal expansion is making the loose contact bridge the gap when it's warm. If you have anything that's good for magnification, it might be worth going round with a needle/fine point tweezers to look for a loose leg. I'd check the UM8881F first since that's responsible for memory.

Reply 4 of 5, by Rav

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Thermalwrong wrote on 2026-05-31, 02:50:

With the RAM issues you're seeing and the fact that keeping the board cool has negative effects on stability, it's quite likely to be a loose pin on one of the UMC chips. I assume your board is one of the later revisions with the COAST module slot and the 'cache' being 2x rectangular chips by the memory slots?

On at least one of my M919 boards, the UM8881F chip by the memory slots had some loose legs and reflowing the solder on those pins to make sure they were all making good contact, resolved the no-post issue I was seeing unless the board was pressed in the right spot.

Your issue is less bad but it being dependant on a warm board suggests thermal expansion is making the loose contact bridge the gap when it's warm. If you have anything that's good for magnification, it might be worth going round with a needle/fine point tweezers to look for a loose leg. I'd check the UM8881F first since that's responsible for memory.

Yes, I was thinking about exactly that, thanks for confirming it to me. I have indeed the board you are describing (except mine don't have the fake cache chips, just solder pads to go nowhere... It's a 3.4F... I think)
I will make closer inspection tomorrow

Reply 5 of 5, by Rav

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I did tap gently on both the 8881F and 8886BF. It crashed while I was taking care of the 8886BF.
So it's probably that. Thanks!