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First post, by kitten.may.cry

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Been awhile, hope everyone's reasonably well.

I've recently come across several of these fun sized things. I wanted to either rack them or build a retro PC, with near future plans to find PCI-to-AGP adapter and benchmark various videocards.

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At first glance, Fuzzy 690T is quite cool , rather small, being miniITX and all, dual NIC, onboard video, mini PCIe for creative minds, supports a desktop AM2 socket, but it's running on an older BIOS.

Because of that, mainboard can't seem to detect the full RAM amount, tested with both 1 and 2Gb SODIMM sticks, on top of general resource unavailability, be it drivers or firmware, this pretty much kills any progress with it.

Another amazing (sarcasm) feature this mainboard has... software level TPM, or at least that's what it looks like, I couldn't install any drivers while in OS, until I used a supplied CD... MSI is insane for that.

All I really want is to make it usable again, nothing more.

Hopefully I won't be turned down, thanks for listening.

Reply 1 of 6, by andrea

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MSI published the launch bios (v. 1.10) and that's it
https://web.archive.org/web/20101003115209/ht … 88&prod_no=1315
It's dated december 2007, I'd assume it supports pretty much the whole AM2 K8 lineup and that's it. Forget about K10 unfortunately.
And being AMI a manual AGESA update it's also out of the question.

The bios isn't archived on the wayback machine, but with the filename I was able to find it on Driverguide and attached it before they decide (again) to do weird things with their links.

Hopefully your boards have a pre-launch version BIOS and this helps.

Reply 2 of 6, by kitten.may.cry

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andrea wrote on 2026-05-18, 19:44:
MSI published the launch bios (v. 1.10) and that's it https://web.archive.org/web/20101003115209/ht … 88&prod_no=1315 It's dated […]
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MSI published the launch bios (v. 1.10) and that's it
https://web.archive.org/web/20101003115209/ht … 88&prod_no=1315
It's dated december 2007, I'd assume it supports pretty much the whole AM2 K8 lineup and that's it. Forget about K10 unfortunately.
And being AMI a manual AGESA update it's also out of the question.

The bios isn't archived on the wayback machine, but with the filename I was able to find it on Driverguide and attached it before they decide (again) to do weird things with their links.

Hopefully your boards have a pre-launch version BIOS and this helps.

Is there a discernable difference between 690T and 690E?

Why do I ask that? I opened a manual, and it specifically says 690T.

If you can expand on that, I'd be glad to hear it.

Reply 3 of 6, by Dothan Burger

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kitten.may.cry wrote on 2026-05-18, 20:22:
Is there a discernable difference between 690T and 690E? […]
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andrea wrote on 2026-05-18, 19:44:
MSI published the launch bios (v. 1.10) and that's it https://web.archive.org/web/20101003115209/ht … 88&prod_no=1315 It's dated […]
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MSI published the launch bios (v. 1.10) and that's it
https://web.archive.org/web/20101003115209/ht … 88&prod_no=1315
It's dated december 2007, I'd assume it supports pretty much the whole AM2 K8 lineup and that's it. Forget about K10 unfortunately.
And being AMI a manual AGESA update it's also out of the question.

The bios isn't archived on the wayback machine, but with the filename I was able to find it on Driverguide and attached it before they decide (again) to do weird things with their links.

Hopefully your boards have a pre-launch version BIOS and this helps.

Is there a discernable difference between 690T and 690E?

Why do I ask that? I opened a manual, and it specifically says 690T.

If you can expand on that, I'd be glad to hear it.

The 690E and 690T appear to be the same at least the manual list both in the title.

MSI was no help when I asked about a bios for a different Fuzzy board, the 965GME. I used the AI feature to get a bios revision # then searched and found that on what looked like a scam driver hosting site, It worked and did solve my issue.

Sucks that MSI can't just host the files.

Reply 4 of 6, by andrea

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kitten.may.cry wrote on 2026-05-18, 20:22:

Is there a discernable difference between 690T and 690E?

I actually don't know, I found out the MS number for the board, rather than the marketing name, (so MS-9804) and went looking with that.
Sorry.

Reply 5 of 6, by kitten.may.cry

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andrea wrote on 2026-05-19, 08:44:
kitten.may.cry wrote on 2026-05-18, 20:22:

Is there a discernable difference between 690T and 690E?

I actually don't know, I found out the MS number for the board, rather than the marketing name, (so MS-9804) and went looking with that.
Sorry.

You know what? Thanks for the help, guess I was overambitious, MSI hates their legacy userbase.

Reply 6 of 6, by soggi

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kitten.may.cry wrote on 2026-05-19, 19:08:

You know what? Thanks for the help, guess I was overambitious, MSI hates their legacy userbase.

From someone who doesn't work for MSI but is quite near to them I know that from time to time they delete everything belonging to older products (BIOSes, manuals, ...) - even from their backend (FTP-)servers, which are not intended for the public. So there's no chance to get older stuff from MSI directly, they seem to have no archive for such things.

The only chance to get support for older products today are The Wayback Machine and other third party sources. The problem is, that not everything public has been archived and in addition there were a lot of things which weren't public at all (f.e. Beta BIOSes or a lot of OEM stuff like MEDION, HP, etc.).

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soggi

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