A.i. and Robots and Electric cars are Invading California……
Sorry guys, The American Dream is Over….its all about MONEY and Security $$$$$.
Disable all your shares on your computers and lock everything up.
Security.
It's been over 20 years since things started to move the way to reduce the need for thick clients and it only sped up in the past 10-15 years. And the thing is, beyond power users like most of us, not many people really needs these thick clients. AI and cloud computing became a big enough business that home PC users can't really put up competition as demand for hardware even as a collective. And we are a lot more segmented than the big players who eat up our hardware. As well as a lot of us are also customers of the big players who eat up our hardware strengthening their demand.
I am waiting for the fire sales of RAM and SSD storage when AI shits the bed. DDR5 went up so much that people are overpaying for used DDR4 now, same with SSD and even spinning drives.
Old GPU prices are higher now than they used to be because new cards are too pricey.
Collector of old computers, hardware, and software
Unknown_K wrote on 2026-06-05, 20:26:I am waiting for the fire sales of RAM and SSD storage when AI shits the bed. DDR5 went up so much that people are overpaying for used DDR4 now, same with SSD and even spinning drives.
Old GPU prices are higher now than they used to be because new cards are too pricey.
Most of it will probably be destroyed rather than make its way back into the consumer market
Fish3r wrote on 2026-06-05, 20:36:Most of it will probably be destroyed rather than make its way back into the consumer market
Yes, and prices will remain high or even go higher... The easiest way for "them" will be the landfill, not taking the time, effort, and sweat to re-sell on the consumer market. This has happened time and time again before.
Depends on if the companies go bankrupt or not, if so, somebody will sell it off to pay off debts.
Collector of old computers, hardware, and software
Nobody's going bankrupt. So much money has been sunk into this that it would tank national economy. Expect government bailouts.
"This all reminds me when i took the windows vista sticker thingy off my old laptop, and on my washing machine as a joke. A few days later said washing machine stopped working. I still think this cannot be a coincidence."
Unknown_K wrote on 2026-06-06, 00:11:Depends on if the companies go bankrupt or not, if so, somebody will sell it off to pay off debts.
They'll dump it all in the landfill for the fat tax write-off. Especially if they go into chapter 11. Bankruptcy is unlikely, for they'll also have their hands out for the immediate government bailout. Their stupidity is also both their govenment's stupidity and the people's stupidity for letting it happen in the first place. Dumping so much money into AI so fast and wantonly has been one of the great blunders of modern times. In addition to social media and the dot-com bubble (which also bust into the script-infested nightmare of ads, captchas, and rubbish the web is today). Oh, to go back to the lean, mean, and fast internet of 25 years ago!
Boot loader is said to be open, N1(X) supports PCIE lanes and Thunderbolt and there will be AMD64 binary emulation. I don't really see how this heralds the end of PCs. It just brings another option. And this being Nvidia the software environment is likely to be well thought out and quick to mature.
I am curious and mildly optimistic. Need to see price and power envelope.
buyers decide.
whoever bought a smart-tv, console, laptop, tablet, smartphone, all-in-one display, mini-pc, micro/mini-motherboard is responsible for this to happen.
I am not resposible for that.
anyone else can say that too?
anyone else never bought anything mentioned above?
^ I don't buy much, but I guess I'm part of the problem.
Oh well...
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robertmo3 wrote on 2026-06-06, 07:51:buyers decide. whoever bought a smart-tv, console, laptop, tablet, smartphone, all-in-one display, mini-pc, micro/mini-motherboa […]
buyers decide.
whoever bought a smart-tv, console, laptop, tablet, smartphone, all-in-one display, mini-pc, micro/mini-motherboard is responsible for this to happen.
I am not resposible for that.
anyone else can say that too?
anyone else never bought anything mentioned above?
I do have the rubby glass pocket rectangle thing, difficult to operate in current society without one. It is five years old and its non-servicable battery is starting to go out. Long term vision is to phase this out of my life.
The laptop I use is about 22 years old.
I own none of the other stuff mentioned and don’t intend to either.
my nokia 3310 is 26 years old
Old computers will probably be banned for environmental reasons like already happens with automobiles.
"This all reminds me when i took the windows vista sticker thingy off my old laptop, and on my washing machine as a joke. A few days later said washing machine stopped working. I still think this cannot be a coincidence."
The problem is that if you stop buying low-quality or user-hostile products, you won't buy anything at all, including food. I don't want to give up and accept it, but I have to eat.
...They're really grasping at straws to come up with useful applications of LLMs with shoving "AI Agents" everywhere with this system, huh.
Honestly I think Nvidia are doomed when the bubble pops (GPUs just are not that useful for most things, let alone the datacentre GPUs that can't render graphics at all), and this is one of their ways to try to escape from that.
if they can get into making consumer CPUs and PCs then it might provide enough of a buffer for their survival.
Just a silly lil person in a very big world.
I don't see much to worry about Nvidia considering they are a Taiwanese firm and Taiwan's independence of China grows less by the day. Whatever grand designs they have aren't gonna survive Xi's ambition, me thinks.
They are an American company and you don't know what you're talking about.
Bear in mind I usually post to the forums using my old systems.
An American company, founded and run by a Taiwanese guy, that does most of their manufacturing in Taiwan.
I'd say they have one foot in each country.
World's foremost 486 enjoyer.
They are also openly hostile to open standards, and big fans of company secrets, lock-in, and masters of plugging their ears and humming loudly.
They also are not the only game in town when it comes to gpus, and their refusal to collaborate will mean their proprietary bs will be their undoing.
Much like Sony's attempts to dictate the optical disc and flash media markets ended.
That's assuming competition remains a thing, anyway.
