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Reply 400 of 421, by MagefromAntares

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Originally I wanted to upgrade my primary PC last December, but the price increases made me postpone it, luckily my RTX 2060 is still holding the fort quite well, so the primary thing that annoys me is that I have assembled this machine with only 16 GB of RAM, which means that multitasking, especially when virtualizing is a bit tight with that much amount of RAM.

"A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it." - Dune

Reply 401 of 421, by wierd_w

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I did a budget upgrade on my Ryzen 9 based machine last september.

Glad I did. I have a decent-ish RTX and 64gb of ram, decent enough compute, and SSD storage.

I'll just wait for the bubble to pop, like everyone with more brains than money will.

Reply 402 of 421, by Dimos

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Law212 wrote on 2026-05-05, 17:24:
Dimos wrote on 2026-05-05, 17:20:
keenmaster486 wrote on 2026-05-05, 15:50:

1080 series never stops winning. That really was the pinnacle of performance/bestAvailablePerformance/price

I think the Kepler - Maxwell - Pascal series of Gpus was Nvidia's pinnacle. Each generation showed significantly increased performance along with increased power and thermal efficiency, all this in very reasonable prices and with non existent competition from Amd. From the next generation of gpus and forth prices began to skyrocket and will (probably) never go back to those levels again. Sad, but true.

True.

I look back and think I should have held on to my PC build with the 1080 ti , but ah well its gone now. the 1080 ti did amazing for so long.

The 1080 Ti will go down in history as maybe the goat of gpus. The- pre ray tracing era - rasterization king, the first Gpu that made 4k gaming at ultra settings a reality, similar to what the 980 ti made with 2k. If i could somehow make a single pc component work with Xp (that until now doesn't), this particular Gpu would be it, so i would be covered in a dual boot - win xp, win 7 machine, even in the most extreme scenarios.

I also now think the same about one of my past pc builds. It had an Albatron 865 mobo, a 3.2 ghz pentium 4 and a Sapphire hd 3850 agp(!) Gpu. Back then it seemed like an outdated pc and was sold for an amount of money that now seem like nothing. Only if i did know back then that it was essentially an almost ultimate agp system, that i would now appreciate so much.

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Gpu: Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming 980 ti
Ram: G-Skill Trident X F3-2400C10Q-16GTD
Mobo: Gigabyte Z97x Gaming 5
Hdd: T-Force Vulcan Z 512 gb Ssd
Psu: Corsair CX650
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Reply 403 of 421, by douglar

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Dimos wrote on 2026-05-05, 17:10:

I am not a U.S. citizen, so I don't know exactly how does the currency/market inflation develop each year there. The general trend of course is that as time goes by, prices for every available product or service increase, so the currency loses gradually its power, but that is absolutely true only in the long term context. In the short term, lets say, from a given year to the next one, or two years later, its not impossible for deflation to happen. So the spreadsheet could be correct.

While it is certainly not impossible, a quick web search will show that didn't happen on a macro level in the US, nor was it close to happening.

Reply 404 of 421, by keenmaster486

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Okay, I recalculated those numbers using the BLS CPI tool and added some more stats.

Why did I include a benchmark/price/price metric? To give you an idea of which card you might choose if you want high performance/dollar but don't want to spend a large total amount of money.

In any case, in benchmark/price the 1080 Ti is only just beat by the 4090, but not the 5090.

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Reply 405 of 421, by douglar

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keenmaster486 wrote on 2026-05-05, 22:23:
Okay, I recalculated those numbers using the BLS CPI tool and added some more stats. […]
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Okay, I recalculated those numbers using the BLS CPI tool and added some more stats.

Why did I include a benchmark/price/price metric? To give you an idea of which card you might choose if you want high performance/dollar but don't want to spend a large total amount of money.

In any case, in benchmark/price the 1080 Ti is only just beat by the 4090, but not the 5090.

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Thanks, that data looks much better.

There is something to be said for utility over time. If you bought the 1080, you didn’t just get the card today, you got years of gaming too. If you waited years to buy the 4090, what did you do in the mean time?

Reply 407 of 421, by lti

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Maybe I should put 32GB of RAM in my laptop while a DDR4 SODIMM kit is "only" $250, and then I'll fix the hinge on my dad's laptop and give him the old 16GB. The other option is to get a module that matches his original 8GB on eBay. He thinks he should buy a new laptop, but I don't think he saw prices on anything that's actually a meaningful upgrade.

I just saw a Computex video where Dell was proudly showing off a laptop with 8GB of soldered RAM, and the trade show demo Windows install (what you'd think is tuned for maximum performance) idled at 75% RAM usage. That's our future. Software bloat will never get better, but hardware will get worse (or simply turn into a thin client with strangely high power consumption, and I'll still have DSL Internet when it happens because those claims of fiber rolling out in my area inevitably turn out to be lies). As I've said before, everyone either accepts it or tries to defend it.

Reply 408 of 421, by zyzzle

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lti wrote on 2026-06-14, 18:24:

I just saw a Computex video where Dell was proudly showing off a laptop with 8GB of soldered RAM, and the trade show demo Windows install (what you'd think is tuned for maximum performance) idled at 75% RAM usage. That's our future. Software bloat will never get better, but hardware will get worse (or simply turn into a thin client with strangely high power consumption, and I'll still have DSL Internet when it happens because those claims of fiber rolling out in my area inevitably turn out to be lies). As I've said before, everyone either accepts it or tries to defend it.

You hit it 100%. This is the ridiculous reality. I refuse to buy into it or accept it, so I keep my older equipment running with lean and mean software that still works. It takes a fair amount of tweaking, but it has become old hat now.

The even more unforgivable problem is that power consumption is increasing, not decreasing. For an average person, there is positively now no reason or need for any laptop to consume over 10 watts of power, even under load. It seems the peak of power efficiency occurred about 2018-2020, just when intel ditched BIOS for awful UEFI and TPM 2.0 mandates. They were in bed with Microsoft, of course, and this has all been planned. The green revolution is over, now the greed revolution has supplanted it... Just throw it away, burn up all fossil fuels, there's more where THAT came from. Who cares about conservation -- it's not making ME any money, is the new mantra.

Relying on an internet-always accessed / downloading subscrption model in order for your system to even function will just increase power consumtion massively. (There will never be an idle state where CPU load sits at 0-5%).

I've seen the future and I weep. I spit on it.

Reply 409 of 421, by Law212

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Shponglefan wrote on 2025-12-22, 14:26:
Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2025-12-22, 07:05:

By chance, I built my latest PC a few months before this went down. Doesn't look like I'll be upgrading it any time soon.

Same. Really glad I upgraded when I did.

Ditto. End of 2025 when I built a new machine and luckily i was able to build a high end machine which will last a long time.

I remember though when I couldnt evne get a 30 series card because of all the crypto mining.

Reply 410 of 421, by wierd_w

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Built my homelab just before the madness.

Still cant believe the outrageous prices now.

Reply 411 of 421, by Dimos

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SanDisk's new 8TB PS5 SSD costs $2,959.99, more than three times as much as the PS5 Pro.

https://www.engadget.com/2196530/sandisks-new … as-the-ps5-pro/

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Gpu: Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming 980 ti
Ram: G-Skill Trident X F3-2400C10Q-16GTD
Mobo: Gigabyte Z97x Gaming 5
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Psu: Corsair CX650
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Reply 412 of 421, by rmay635703

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Dimos wrote on Yesterday, 20:42:

SanDisk's new 8TB PS5 SSD costs $2,959.99, more than three times as much as the PS5 Pro.

https://www.engadget.com/2196530/sandisks-new … as-the-ps5-pro/

Yeah 8tb ssds used to be about $500 for a commodity one, back in ye olde 2024

At the rate we are going the IBM PC 5150 will become the home computer for offline gaming, typing and spreadsheet work.

They will have to relaunch color dot matrix ribbon production.

Reply 413 of 421, by such

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wierd_w wrote on 2026-06-15, 20:28:

Built my homelab just before the madness.

Still cant believe the outrageous prices now.

Dragged my feet on that for years, ultimately said 'screw it' last year and didn't force it. Downsized my storage as well, they can go to hell with these prices. Store less, remember more.

I suppose.

Reply 414 of 421, by allesclar

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such wrote on Yesterday, 21:07:
wierd_w wrote on 2026-06-15, 20:28:

Built my homelab just before the madness.

Still cant believe the outrageous prices now.

Dragged my feet on that for years, ultimately said 'screw it' last year and didn't force it. Downsized my storage as well, they can go to hell with these prices. Store less, remember more.

I suppose.

I am in the same boat.

Whilst i am not reducing my storage capacities in my servers, i am not looking at increasing them neither when i replace drives due to failures etc...

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Reply 415 of 421, by wierd_w

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I obtained some "Discarded obsolete trash" small form factor disk SAS shelves, full of 1tb disks, for a total of 48 disks.

I did some research, and there are adapters that will let me shove mSATA SSD modules inside the drive bays.
(This thing, in case anyone cares)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166279401407
(the same adapters will work with newer shelves that support newer SAS flavors, since NVME modules can go in THOSE. My shelf is not so special, and the best I can do is mSATA in there. The adapter does both.)

The intention was to "Get some storage NOW (and ensure I have all the needed disk caddy modules)", and "Incrementally replace it with mSATA SSD modules, as money and time allow"

And now... Here I am, 6 months later, looking at the prices of such modules, and wondering what the hell happened, and looking at the prices of such shelves (I got TWO shelves, FULL OF DISKS for 600$, SHIPPED-- Current pricing? Hahahahaahahahahaha -- thats just ONE shelf full of disks. Without shipping.)

Regardless, It is fully functional "As is"-- just not where I wanted it to be by now.
I'll wait patiently for the bubble to burst. THEN buy.

Reply 416 of 421, by zyzzle

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The bubble won't burst in the traditional sense... and when it does, as mentioned above, most of those excess AI slop drives and RAM are going into the landfill for the tax writeoff. Prices will remain high now that the lemmings have been weaned on them. And specs will decrease, as your subscription-based PC will be a minimum rubbish Soc system; building and sourcing your own components will be a difficult and painfully expensive con game. Ebay and its schleppers are lapping it up. Many bought low, stockpiled, and are poucing now for max. profit in this madness. They're part of the problem.

Reply 417 of 421, by BitWrangler

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So yay, it's gonna be like the good old days in 1994 when you were trying to enjoy your new 486 board with 4MB of RAM and the carryover 40MB HDD, and run windows and have more than 1 game installed.

I got about 20 TB to fill up yet, so I think I am good a while...

... though just in case, I'll get that 24x DVDR installed in something in the event that I need to span a tar.gz over a couple of hundred DVDs...

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 418 of 421, by wierd_w

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zyzzle wrote on Yesterday, 23:36:

The bubble won't burst in the traditional sense... and when it does, as mentioned above, most of those excess AI slop drives and RAM are going into the landfill for the tax writeoff. Prices will remain high now that the lemmings have been weaned on them. And specs will decrease, as your subscription-based PC will be a minimum rubbish Soc system; building and sourcing your own components will be a difficult and painfully expensive con game. Ebay and its schleppers are lapping it up. Many bought low, stockpiled, and are poucing now for max. profit in this madness. They're part of the problem.

Shitty SoC based machines will be a noticable regression in capabilities and quality. They most certainly wont fill the niche needed by high performance applications, like engineering seats, and so they *cannot* completely subsume the market.

Since they *cannot* completely subsume the market, there will be an avenue for purchase, even at a premium price. The benefits of such ownership will still be there, even if at a premium price.

The mere existence of such options will puncture the ability to fully dictate the market, and as a consequence, manufacturers will produce products to meet the people wanting that freedom, or those options.

Enough people in that category, and economies of scale start to happen, and consumer revolt occurs.

I can see the market going to SoCs for a few years, everyone hating it, it being an ill fitting shackle on everything, the hardware makers in China and Tiawan wanting to hit every possible market, including this "rogue element", will produce products to fill that nice, and the dam will eventually break.

I can be that patient.

Reply 419 of 421, by Ozzuneoj

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BitWrangler wrote on Today, 01:06:

So yay, it's gonna be like the good old days in 1994 when you were trying to enjoy your new 486 board with 4MB of RAM and the carryover 40MB HDD, and run windows and have more than 1 game installed.

I got about 20 TB to fill up yet, so I think I am good a while...

... though just in case, I'll get that 24x DVDR installed in something in the event that I need to span a tar.gz over a couple of hundred DVDs...

That reminds me... an acquaintance was clearing out a relative's house a while back, and that person dabbled in computers. Amongst mostly broken stuff and middling laptops I found a pair of 4TB SAS hard drives. There was no indication that the person had any kind of setup to actually use them, so I'm guessing they were a mistaken "refurb" purchase and they got them cheap enough to just not even care.

When I got this stuff around two years ago these were kind of "meh" so I just put them on the shelf... but now, the possibility of getting 8TB of storage for free is pretty sweet, so I may have to figure out what I need to be able to use these in a system. I have never messed with SAS drives before. They'd probably make good a good 4th-string off-site backup kind of thing. Like, load one up with absolutely everything I have backed up for everyone in my household (I do not hoard TV\movie collections like a lot of people, so this is enough), then stash them in a safe place at a relative's house. Then I don't have to worry about having to run a "special" system to use these drives once in a while, but they still serve a purpose.

(Before you ask: Yes, I have done the file-server thing several times over the past 25 years. I haven't had a use for one in years though, so these would be better suited for some other purpose.)

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.