shevalier wrote on 2026-06-16, 15:06:

I’m not suggesting you go for the HDR Gen 3 with Micro-LED backlighting. […]
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afshin6760 wrote on 2026-06-16, 14:28:

shevalier wrote on 2026-06-16, 14:15:

Absolutely. As for prices, it’s a bit strange for someone who bought a 4060 RTX to talk about saving money at a basic FHD Gen 2 […]
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Absolutely.
As for prices, it’s a bit strange for someone who bought a 4060 RTX to talk about saving money at a basic FHD Gen 2 IPS monitor with true 8-bit panel (not 6bit+FRC).
Gen 1 (60 Hz, 75 when overclocked), Gen 2 (100, overclocked to 144). We’re now on Generation 3 – 250 Hz.

I’ve got a Full HD IPS monitor myself, and to be honest, that resolution is already a bit underwhelming. But that was the absolute limit for CRT monitors; there were only a handful of models like that.
Alas, with a 17-inch CRT monitor—given its resolution, aspect ratio, absence of a DisplayPort (important for FreeSync) and pixel structure—there’s nothing to be had in modern games. 🙁

You make a fair point about the newer IPS generations. To be honest, I'm still weighing my options and haven't made a final decision yet—IPS might very well end up being the better choice for me. I'm just trying to see if I can get away with a cheaper setup since my hardware (i3-13100 / RTX 4060) won't hit those ultra-high frame rates on the games I play anyway. Still testing things out

I’m not suggesting you go for the HDR Gen 3 with Micro-LED backlighting.

But if it’s this particular LG CRT monitor you’re after and you’ve got room for it — by all means, go ahead and buy that one too (but not instead of another).
All 4 RTX games will be finished in the blink of an eye, and it’ll be a pleasure to replay all the other timeless classics from the early 2000s on a CRT monitor.
That said, modern websites and operating system interfaces are now practically impossible to use on a monitor with a 4:3 aspect ratio.

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I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why you spent quite a lot of money on a new gaming PC but aren't getting a good modern LCD gaming monitor (arguably one of the most worthwhile purchases of all).

A 1080p monitor isn't going to cut it, either. You can get a decent gaming modern for fairly cheap these days. At least 1440p but 4K is better, and with 144 Hz (or similar) support with freesync. I prefer 27-inch and recommend it (but it depends on your desk space). I would advise not cheaping out on the monitor.

CRTs are not really suitable for modern gaming, in my opinion, for reasons mentioned above (aside from perhaps some edge cases), and modern good-quality LCDs are really nice.

jh80 wrote on 2026-06-17, 00:03:

I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why you spent quite a lot of money on a new gaming PC but aren't getting a good modern LCD gaming monitor (arguably one of the most worthwhile purchases of all).

A 1080p monitor isn't going to cut it, either. You can get a decent gaming modern for fairly cheap these days. At least 1440p but 4K is better, and with 144 Hz (or similar) support with freesync. I prefer 27-inch and recommend it (but it depends on your desk space). I would advise not cheaping out on the monitor.

CRTs are not really suitable for modern gaming, in my opinion, for reasons mentioned above (aside from perhaps some edge cases), and modern good-quality LCDs are really nice.

First of all, resolutions higher than 1080p are not suitable for the RTX 4060 at all.
And the problem I have is that I'm afraid I can't stand the sample and hold and backlight of LCD/IPS monitors because I played with CRT for a long time.

These 2 pictures make me really not want to buy IPS.

afshin6760 wrote on 2026-06-17, 08:18:

First of all, resolutions higher than 1080p are not suitable for the RTX 4060 at all.
And the problem I have is that I'm afraid I can't stand the sample and hold and backlight of LCD/IPS monitors because I played with CRT for a long time.

I was about to go on a spiel about having a good time playing Pragmata on a 30 series card at 3440x1440 @ 100hz, but then I actually looked up the performance and the 4060 is quite a way behind the 3080 12GB

NeoG_ wrote on 2026-06-17, 08:32:

afshin6760 wrote on 2026-06-17, 08:18:

First of all, resolutions higher than 1080p are not suitable for the RTX 4060 at all.
And the problem I have is that I'm afraid I can't stand the sample and hold and backlight of LCD/IPS monitors because I played with CRT for a long time.

I was about to go on a spiel about having a good time playing Pragmata on a 30 series card at 3440x1440 @ 100hz, but then I actually looked up the performance and the 4060 is quite a way behind the 3080 12GB

I don't like dlss and stuff like that either.

afshin6760 wrote on 2026-06-17, 08:18:

These 2 pictures make me really not want to buy IPS.

A PC monitor is a very personal thing. You really need to choose one by looking at it in person.

Especially a budget one.
You never know where the manufacturer has cut costs.

shevalier wrote on 2026-06-17, 09:21:

A PC monitor is a very personal thing. You really need to choose one by looking at it in person. […]
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afshin6760 wrote on 2026-06-17, 08:18:

These 2 pictures make me really not want to buy IPS.

A PC monitor is a very personal thing. You really need to choose one by looking at it in person.

Especially a budget one.
You never know where the manufacturer has cut costs.

The problem is that in my country (Iran) such a thing is not possible (looking at it in person).
And the even worse problem is that I guess grade B panels are entering Iran. These are worse than their original models (because they frankly write strange things in the warranty, for example, under 4 burnt pixels are not included in the warranty, and the same goes for excessive backlighting).

afshin6760 wrote on 2026-06-17, 08:18:

First of all, resolutions higher than 1080p are not suitable for the RTX 4060 at all.

That's not true at all. I have an RTX 3060 and play lots of games at 1440p with 100+ fps. If you're only looking at graphics-heavy new releases, then yeah, the 4060 is not a suitable card. But go back a few years or go with less graphically intense games and you can certainly play them at higher than 1080p.

But there are other advantages to getting a higher resolution aside from gaming. You can go with a larger monitor size and still have text look crisp and enjoy higher quality video. It's just a better overall experience.

I was going to suggest that you find a monitor vendor that allows returns, so you can test one out and see what you think, but I guess that might not be possible for you.

jh80 wrote on 2026-06-17, 10:23:

That's not true at all. I have an RTX 3060 and play lots of games at 1440p with 100+ fps. If you're only looking at graphics-hea […]
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afshin6760 wrote on 2026-06-17, 08:18:

First of all, resolutions higher than 1080p are not suitable for the RTX 4060 at all.

That's not true at all. I have an RTX 3060 and play lots of games at 1440p with 100+ fps. If you're only looking at graphics-heavy new releases, then yeah, the 4060 is not a suitable card. But go back a few years or go with less graphically intense games and you can certainly play them at higher than 1080p.

But there are other advantages to getting a higher resolution aside from gaming. You can go with a larger monitor size and still have text look crisp and enjoy higher quality video. It's just a better overall experience.

I was going to suggest that you find a monitor vendor that allows returns, so you can test one out and see what you think, but I guess that might not be possible for you.

I don't have the money for 1440p monitors, and I think older games look worse at higher resolutions.

Seeing a screen in person is difficult in many places now.. Even here in Australia there is a 1% chance the screen you are looking at has a display model at a nearby computer store. Physical retail has been gutted. I have not personally seen a screen I am buying available to see in person since 2009.

Full HD, Gen 2 (approximately 144 Hz), DisplayPort.
This is a relevant opinion and makes good technical sense. 😀

kind reminder that VOGONS is not the place for any political or real world events discussion , let's keep everything hobby-related
thanks 😀

keropi wrote on 2026-06-17, 13:42:

kind reminder that VOGONS is not the place for any political or real world events discussion , let's keep everything hobby-related
thanks 😀

I’m sure that a third-generation IPSv display (144+ Hz) with 1,024 backlight zones (Micro-LED) will look better than a CRT monitor.
Unfortunately, I’m not aware of any OLED monitors with that resolution.

I guess my monitor capacitors are rotten because after my monitor warms up, it gives a much better picture in interlaced.

afshin6760 wrote on 2026-06-17, 08:38:

I don't like dlss and stuff like that either.

Try using DLSS set to "Quality." It boosts performance slightly, and provides anti-aliasing that looks better than the TAA used in a lot of modern games. DLSS 2 and newer set to Quality is a really nice feature, as it gives a small performance boost and pretty much free removal of jagged edges. I was a bit skeptical too until I got my 3060 Ti back in 2021, and I continue to use FSR 3 or FSR 4 on my 9070 XT for similar anti-aliasing.

At this point upscaling can be necessary (can't be off) for some implementations of RTX and PT, so highest graphical settings are locked behind... what you'd consider to be settings intended for hardware on the lower end.

Games are designed and targeted in terms of performance with upscaling in mind, same goes for other modern features. Such as framegen, which is now appearing in official system requirements, so publishers have been announcing native framerates of... 15 as targets, with straight faces.