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trying to get my epson 286 pc to work

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Reply 100 of 153, by Pickle

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check the write protect slider on the sdcard? and you rebooted after writing the mbr?

Reply 101 of 153, by jude1977

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I’m not sure whether the sd card has a wright protector slider I don’t think I saw one on it
I’ll have a look thoe no I didn’t reboot after writing the mbr the pc I’m using has got a
Dead bios battery does that make any difference if I reboot after writing mbr
Also I’m a bit confused what do you mean by writing mbr

Reply 102 of 153, by DaveDDS

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jude1977 wrote on 2026-07-15, 11:55:

... But when I tried to delete the partition it gave the same message as I wrote above ...

The last message I see you wrote above begins with "No space to create dos partition"

Is this correct, seems add to complain about no space to create when you are trying to delete...

I really haven't played with SDcards as drives (I have used CFcards as drives - they are much closed to IDE) so I really don't know why this would happen - I'm guessing some weird thing about how the card is formatted - does this happen with a different card?

Also, as @Picles suggested, make sure it's not write protected (I would hope for clear like "Write protect" error - but this is MS after all!)

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Reply 103 of 153, by DaveDDS

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SD cards write protect is a bit weird - a small tab that slides on the side, but it has no internal/electrical connection, it literally works by the writing device detecting the tab position - and some devices don't look at it at all (meaning the card can be written no matter where the tab is)

Always good to reboot after basic low-level system changes. There's no way to know what BIOS/DOS has cached which may not reflect the new state.

You should replace your CMOS battery - technically it shouldn't make a difference as long as you manually change all settings to where they should be ... but it's far to easy to forget one.
THis is especially true when trying to "figure things out" as you don't want subtle/norestored changes to be affecting your rest runs.

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Reply 104 of 153, by jude1977

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I just had a look at the actual sd card the switch is definitely in the unlocked position

Reply 105 of 153, by jude1977

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Yes sorry for the confusion when I run fdisk in dos it shows there’s a non dos petition
On the card when I try to delete the petition it says can’t delete petition

Reply 106 of 153, by Shponglefan

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jude1977 wrote on 2026-07-13, 14:09:

Thanks for all that information I hade a look for a prebuilt xtide card and they seem pretty hard
To find online as I can’t find any so I think I’d rather go for a hard drive

Texelec sells the Lo-tech XTIDE cards: https://texelec.com/product/isa-compactflash-adapter/

I've used these in a couple different Epson 286 builds along with CF-to-IDE adapters and appropriately sized CF cards. They work great as a CF solution for 286 systems.

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Reply 107 of 153, by jude1977

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Thanks for the message and link will check it out

Reply 108 of 153, by wierd_w

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It seems a waste to ditch a nice 16bit dual ide controller for an 8bit one, when all that's wrong here is which rom is in the socket. 🙁

Reply 109 of 153, by jude1977

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Hi is there any advantage between a 16 bit and 8 bit ide controller
I don’t know much about them

Reply 110 of 153, by jude1977

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I’d be happy to stick with your s if there’s a advantage

Reply 111 of 153, by wierd_w

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16bit controllers can send data much faster.
They also can use IRQs bigger than 7.

The ide specification was really made for 16bit controllers. 8bit ones like lotec cards, have to batch 8bit writes back to back to simulate 16bit io transfers, and other things.

Putting the AT flavor XTIde bios on the 16bit card is the best possible answer, but you dont have a blank 32k eeprom, nor a way to write it.

Suggesting you get the 8bit card is just a convenience catering to those facts.

Personally, i'd just burn and replace the rom on the 16bit card.

Alternatively, yank the rom out of the card's socket (so that NOTHING is at d800), use the cmos drive types, and use ezdrive.

Reply 112 of 153, by Shponglefan

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In my experience a CF card with an 8-bit IDE interface doesn't matter that much on a 286 system. It still feels a lot faster than a traditional HDD, especially for HDD's of that era.

Maybe for a 386/486 the difference would be more noticeable.

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Reply 113 of 153, by jude1977

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Hi just a quick update on my problem Ive tried this time with my cf card in the
Adapter witch holds a cf card and tried again through dos to create a partition
And I have exactly the same issue and message come up as it did when
I tried with the sd card so using both cards gave the same issue and message as I wrote
A couple of posts ago so I’m beginning to think maybe it’s not the cards
I using that are the issue and maybe it’s something else causing the problem

Reply 114 of 153, by Pickle

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id try a different ide cable

Reply 115 of 153, by jude1977

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Just a quick update I tried a different cable as suggested it’s a older cable one that came
With my ide controller card that I got with it amazingly I can now create a partition
The only thing is I can’t seem to make the partition very large in space only 2 mb
I also tried copying dos to the ide sd card witch is showing up as partition c:
But it gives a message wrong dos version im not sure whether i used the
Write command as im not sure what it is i mean the command to copy
Files from floppy disk to sd card if any one could help me out I’d really appreciate it

Reply 116 of 153, by Pickle

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Try to run the fdisk /mbr. Reboot again and check if the partition can be larger

Reply 117 of 153, by wierd_w

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Also, post pictures of the various fdisk screens when you are trying to create said partition.

Reply 118 of 153, by DaveDDS

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Yes, try /MBR - always a good place to start when a drive seems "wonky".

With FDISK, can you see other partitions on the drive? if so, how big are they and how big is the drive? Is it possible you just don't have free space on the driver?

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Reply 119 of 153, by wierd_w

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Indeed.. that's mainly what i'd like to see.

The "4) show partition information" screen, and the "1) create new DOS partition" screens.

To see if this is DOS trying to make a partition in the 1mb or so of leading disk space on MB-Aligned partitions modern OSes like to leave, or if this a translation related issue.