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Reply 20 of 25, by Living

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Windows 9x was ancient even for 2002 standards. By 2006 only 5% or less were using 98 SE, so its no surprise that ATI dropped support.

i have never seen a OS aging so bad and fast like 9x...

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Reply 21 of 25, by Trashbytes

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2026-07-17, 01:00:

Someone probably could port open source Linux drivers, but that would be only for OpenGL.

Trashbytes wrote on 2026-07-16, 10:28:

AGP never had the capability for multiple GPUs or even multiple AGP slots

In fact, it had. That's why Rage MAXX exists.

I own a working one the two GPUs do not talk to each other over the AGP bus they use an internal PCI bus interconnect to talk to each other, the AGP bus is treated by the card as nothing more than a 66Mhz PCi slot, the OS only ever see the card as one GPU. The other dual GPU card the Voodoo 5 5500 also uses an internal PCI bus to talk to each other and does not communicate over the AGP bus, this card however is seen by windows as two GPUs, it also treats the AGP slot as a 66Mhz PCI slot.

A cool feature the Fury MAXX has that the Voodoo 5 does not is the ability to disable an entire GPU Die along with its memory, making it essentially an ATI Fury, pretty interesting feature.

AGP as a slot never supported multiple GPUs in the same system via dual AGP slots and even DUAL GPUs via PCI / AGP would have issues since the AGP slot wanted to be primary, which is why there was never dual AGP boards and why AGP SLI/Xfire never came to AGP systems. Again I will expect a Gotcha via the Voodoo 2 cards and their use of SLI via PCI but that's a different discussion and a vastly different implementation of SLI from the nVidia variety.

But I suspect you understood all this and was just playing a gotcha, I know how you work Mr Rider.

I know return to doing more useful and profitable things with my time.

Reply 22 of 25, by The Serpent Rider

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Trashbytes wrote on Yesterday, 13:16:

the OS only ever see the card as one GPU.

Nope.
https://youtu.be/BJfoyato1Ac?t=434

A cool feature the Fury MAXX has that the Voodoo 5 does not is the ability to disable an entire GPU Die

That's also not true.

The other dual GPU card the Voodoo 5 5500 also uses an internal PCI bus to talk to each other and does not communicate over the AGP bus, this card however is seen by windows as two GPUs

And this one too. Voodoo 5 is recognized as a single device.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 23 of 25, by rmay635703

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Living wrote on Yesterday, 11:37:

Windows 9x was ancient even for 2002 standards. By 2006 only 5% or less were using 98 SE, so its no surprise that ATI dropped support.

i have never seen a OS aging so bad and fast like 9x...

And yet still 30 million active 9x users in 2010.

My college in 2006 was still about half 9x boxes in the lan parties, lots of k6-x, Duron, celeron and Athlon systems up to 2ghz with 9x still in tow.

Those that didn’t have 9x had 2k because it was available almost free by the school but xp was not. (School really did not like xp and kept it off their own equipment, seeing labs full of 750mhz-1.4ghz athlons with nt4 or win2k was always somehow more interesting.

Reply 24 of 25, by Living

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rmay635703 wrote on Yesterday, 18:05:
And yet still 30 million active 9x users in 2010. […]
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Living wrote on Yesterday, 11:37:

Windows 9x was ancient even for 2002 standards. By 2006 only 5% or less were using 98 SE, so its no surprise that ATI dropped support.

i have never seen a OS aging so bad and fast like 9x...

And yet still 30 million active 9x users in 2010.

My college in 2006 was still about half 9x boxes in the lan parties, lots of k6-x, Duron, celeron and Athlon systems up to 2ghz with 9x still in tow.

Those that didn’t have 9x had 2k because it was available almost free by the school but xp was not. (School really did not like xp and kept it off their own equipment, seeing labs full of 750mhz-1.4ghz athlons with nt4 or win2k was always somehow more interesting.

There will always residue / leftovers. I been working in IT since 1999 and my main goal between 2004 and 2007 was that all my clients had to have some flavor of NT since i was so done with the 9x bullshit, even if had to bruteforce XP in the PC. 98 SE was only reserved for people with very especific software that didnt work with anything else.

Reply 25 of 25, by swaaye

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I do remember the resistance to moving to NT5. Of course it does make sense to keep gaming platforms from 1997-2000 on Win9x. They won't run 2K/XP well. But some of it was just the usual dislike of change.

I have always been an early adopter when there is a clear advantage to doing so. I didn't convert to Win2000 because it was pretty raw for games. Software compatibility and drivers were not so great and it needs a lot more RAM. XP fixed up a lot of that up and I had a more powerful machine in 2001. It even has a level of DOS game support in NTVDM. And hey there was also VDMSound, the reason I found this forum in 2002! Soundfonts on SBLive working with DOS games!!!