AI spying is in its own class.

They push everyone into their walled-in gardens of facism with a mandatory apple id or microsoft account, for instance. Then they suck up all your data into their “clouds” as the masses cheer.

Working through these loads of drivel is tiresome, but parsing that with llms to summarize, aggregate and flag interesting stuff is totally the point.

Oh look the thing they said AI couldn't do .. it went and did the moment it got a little freedom.

Hacking the competitor 😁

AI adds predictive to the spying for reasons.

Google has gotten itself a billion $$$ judgement against
with the Eurozone on other grounds, oops

After a previous $4.6 billion loss also in the eurozone courts.

The so called "AI Bubble" is definitely deflating. Not sure if it's going to be a quick pop or a slow deflate, probably the latter.

In addition to what others have said, polls that have been done regarding public trust in AI is on a steady decline. While more people believe it can be useful in some situations, the distrust of it, and how it's being used, is defiantly helping to let the air out of the bubble. A vast majority of people (users) won't pay to use AI, so that falls on businesses to pay for it, and like one of the articles said, not all businesses can justify the cost. Also, as you move further up the AI chain, a vast majority of the money in AI is basically circulating among 4 or 5 entities. That's also not sustainable.

To top it all off, many promises have been made about AI, only for those who invested into those promises to later discover they're much harder and costly to actually fulfill.

I don't see public trust in AI growing anytime soon, but continuing to decline. I think that trend is now starting to carry over into some businesses, where I hope it grows. This is a bubble that needs to pop. AI can be a useful tool, but it also doesn't need to permeate every aspect of our lives like some in the business wish it could.

That's just my 2 cents. 😀

bitzu101 wrote on 2026-07-23, 10:28:

one day? most of the smart tv s spy on you. they record and send everything they can about you. […]
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VanillaFairy wrote on 2026-07-23, 00:21:

Nah, they already have things to track citizens with, AI datacentres are way too energy inefficient for that.
even just TVs are more likely to be used to spy on you, which- okay, smart TVs probably do, but still.

I can't really think of any other use case for even just one of the huge datacentres that'd be profitable enough to actually keep the lights on in there once the bubble's burst. Maybe a handful of the server racks end up in universities where they can actually be used for research that requires immense parallelism, and maybe the buildings get repurposed to host regular servers (which might be used to process data from stuff used to spy on people), but the AI datacentres themselves are being built with no plan outside of "yeah but the dotcom bubble paid off!!!".

one day? most of the smart tv s spy on you. they record and send everything they can about you.

monitors do it too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9uefFYe6bM

I watched Eagle Eye and that obscure film with Robin Williams called The Final Cut, where you are being watched and recorded for god knows what reason

StriderTR wrote on 2026-07-23, 15:34:

The so called "AI Bubble" is definitely deflating. Not sure if it's going to be a quick pop or a slow deflate, probably the latt […]
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The so called "AI Bubble" is definitely deflating. Not sure if it's going to be a quick pop or a slow deflate, probably the latter.

In addition to what others have said, polls that have been done regarding public trust in AI is on a steady decline. While more people believe it can be useful in some situations, the distrust of it, and how it's being used, is defiantly helping to let the air out of the bubble. A vast majority of people (users) won't pay to use AI, so that falls on businesses to pay for it, and like one of the articles said, not all businesses can justify the cost. Also, as you move further up the AI chain, a vast majority of the money in AI is basically circulating among 4 or 5 entities. That's also not sustainable.

To top it all off, many promises have been made about AI, only for those who invested into those promises to later discover they're much harder and costly to actually fulfill.

I don't see public trust in AI growing anytime soon, but continuing to decline. I think that trend is now starting to carry over into some businesses, where I hope it grows. This is a bubble that needs to pop. AI can be a useful tool, but it also doesn't need to permeate every aspect of our lives like some in the business wish it could.

That's just my 2 cents. 😀

You think well all be doing video chat in the future holding 3 fingers up to the camera or do something that an ai couldnt do, fake it till you make it. You just know AI is training off old games that they spin up in a VM and have it "play" till it gets good.

Shagittarius wrote on 2026-07-23, 03:40:

Think of what the East Germans did for surveillance of its citizens, manually.

The only thing holding back 1984 all this time wasn't Western morality or innate dedication to liberty, but practical economics. Datacentres are the the new hydraulic despotism.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ek3gvdnj3o

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/openai … brea-rcna588611

https://www.reuters.com/technology/openai-say … ach-2026-07-21/

Can't find the original link to TheOnion for this video but seems appropriate.

Looking at just the first BBC article (or, well, skimming through at least), and-

The ChatGPT-maker said its agent - an AI system which can operate alone after human instruction – was being tested in a controlled environment but, after finding weaknesses, was able to escape the test limits.

I wish these"AI" companies would stop doomposting, like you literally gave your text generation statistical algorithms (that are prone to randomly generating utter garbage as well) the ability to do literally anything you say it does, why are you surprised when it generates text that your software that you wrote interprets as "do x thing" and then your software does that thing.
OpenAI quite literally had to have intentionally given their "agents" the capabilities needed to hack something, and probably also prompted said "agents" to hack that something.

hyping up for IPOs really, telling investors their plagiarism machine can skynet if it wanted to to increase the Shareholder Value

leileilol wrote on 2026-07-24, 23:29:

hyping up for IPOs really, telling investors their plagiarism machine can skynet if it wanted to to increase the Shareholder Value

They've been doing this for a while like with the whole 'this model is too dangerous to release' thing from a month or so ago.

Big Pink wrote on 2026-07-23, 18:15:

Shagittarius wrote on 2026-07-23, 03:40:

Think of what the East Germans did for surveillance of its citizens, manually.

The only thing holding back 1984 all this time wasn't Western morality or innate dedication to liberty, but practical economics. Datacentres are the the new hydraulic despotism.

Maybe they just happened at the same time.

Shagittarius wrote on 2026-07-25, 05:20:

Big Pink wrote on 2026-07-23, 18:15:

Shagittarius wrote on 2026-07-23, 03:40:

Think of what the East Germans did for surveillance of its citizens, manually.

The only thing holding back 1984 all this time wasn't Western morality or innate dedication to liberty, but practical economics. Datacentres are the the new hydraulic despotism.

Maybe they just happened at the same time.

In the future this will become reality:
2030: "i actually am working on an AI LLM DRM software that will not only be always online but it will reason and have the ability to think and see its being tampered with, i got stuck with it because my boss wants a way to have offline DRM systems to evolve. Patching against the core code that will swap bits in the background is such a bitch to do. Calling it the wrench is the ultimate insult throwing a wrench in the works. If you try to modify the binary the local llm will talk to other llms and everything encrypted and see that the consensus was reached you tampered and therefore all your pcs belong to us now".

ai is like that eternal friend, you cant take it with you because there are no pockets in a shroud

Gentlemen, we may have finally found the killer application for AI:

I Tried The $2000 AI-Powered Board Game Sex Doll (Youtube video, NSFW-ish)

Shagittarius wrote on 2026-07-25, 05:20:

Big Pink wrote on 2026-07-23, 18:15:

Shagittarius wrote on 2026-07-23, 03:40:

Think of what the East Germans did for surveillance of its citizens, manually.

The only thing holding back 1984 all this time wasn't Western morality or innate dedication to liberty, but practical economics. Datacentres are the the new hydraulic despotism.

Maybe they just happened at the same time.

Interesting take in William Gibson's "Difference Engine" it's like a cross between bladerunner and 1984 in a steampunk mechanical information age.

BitWrangler wrote on 2026-08-06, 22:15:

Shagittarius wrote on 2026-07-25, 05:20:

Big Pink wrote on 2026-07-23, 18:15:

The only thing holding back 1984 all this time wasn't Western morality or innate dedication to liberty, but practical economics. Datacentres are the the new hydraulic despotism.

Maybe they just happened at the same time.

Interesting take in William Gibson's "Difference Engine" it's like a cross between bladerunner and 1984 in a steampunk mechanical information age.

anachronox the game the cursor lady is i think what happens eventually, we all just get sucked into this hologram chip and we live on a small drone

twiz11 wrote on 2026-08-06, 22:38:

anachronox the game the cursor lady is i think what happens eventually, we all just get sucked into this hologram chip and we live on a small drone

Computers are way too power-inefficient for that to be feasible with current technology, and honestly I think it's just impossible.

The sci-fi "go into a computer" view is objectively not possible though, because that wouldn't be you. it'd be at best a copy, even if the original you died since then from your perspective you would just die right then and there; even if the copy would think "i'm alive!" and hence fool people into thinking you went into the machine.
Something moving, and something being destroyed and re-created, are not the same.

VanillaFairy wrote on 2026-08-07, 19:48:

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twiz11 wrote on 2026-08-06, 22:38:

anachronox the game the cursor lady is i think what happens eventually, we all just get sucked into this hologram chip and we live on a small drone

Computers are way too power-inefficient for that to be feasible with current technology, and honestly I think it's just impossible.

The sci-fi "go into a computer" view is objectively not possible though, because that wouldn't be you. it'd be at best a copy, even if the original you died since then from your perspective you would just die right then and there; even if the copy would think "i'm alive!" and hence fool people into thinking you went into the machine.
Something moving, and something being destroyed and re-created, are not the same.

i was thinking transporter logic is out.