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Reply 660 of 679, by bloodem

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Mamba wrote on 2026-07-26, 05:36:
Ok. Reverted to 98SE. […]
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Ok.
Reverted to 98SE.

Radeon 7500 64mb DDR
I am getting 3200 points with Omega drivers and k6-III+ @600

Al wpcredit optimizations suggested gave me 50 points more, not so impressive.

Was expecting more since the gpu was supposed to be a match for gf2 GTS/Pro

It’s because of driver overhead. Older nVIDIA drivers were much better optimized for the K6-2/3 CPUs.
On the other hand, ATi never really had a properly optimized driver for the SS7 platform.

2 x PLCC-68 / 4 x PGA132 / 5 x Skt 3 / 1 x Skt 4 / 9 x Skt 7 / 12 x SS7 / 1 x Skt 8 / 21 x Slot 1 / 8 x Slot A
5 x Skt 370 / 8 x Skt A / 2 x Skt 478 / 2 x Skt 754 / 3 x Skt 939 / 7 x LGA775 / 1 x LGA1155
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Reply 661 of 679, by Mamba

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bloodem wrote on 2026-07-26, 05:58:
Mamba wrote on 2026-07-26, 05:36:
Ok. Reverted to 98SE. […]
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Ok.
Reverted to 98SE.

Radeon 7500 64mb DDR
I am getting 3200 points with Omega drivers and k6-III+ @600

Al wpcredit optimizations suggested gave me 50 points more, not so impressive.

Was expecting more since the gpu was supposed to be a match for gf2 GTS/Pro

It’s because of driver overhead. Older nVIDIA drivers were much better optimized for the K6-2/3 CPUs.
On the other hand, ATi never really had a properly optimized driver for the SS7 platform.

I am aware of that, still struggling to find online “7.76 ati equivalent”.
Nothing on first hand experience as well.
Guess I should be happy to see the card working.

Reply 663 of 679, by schlang

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it can't invent magic from nothing, but if you have register layout, chip specs, existing drivers etc. it's surprisingly good already

PC#1: K6-III+ 400 | 512MB | Geforce4 | Voodoo1 | SB Live | AWE64 | GUS PNP Pro
PC#2: 486DX2-66 | 64MB | Riva128 | AWE64 | GUS PNP | PAS16
PC#3: 386DX-40 | 32MB | CL-GD5434 | SB Pro | GUS MAX | PAS16

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Reply 664 of 679, by Skalabala

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Sphere478 wrote on 2026-08-01, 02:30:

Is AI at the point yet where it can write us cool drivers? 😀

I tried it a year ago 🤣, no luck 🙁

Reply 665 of 679, by schlang

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LLMs were toddlers a year ago. give it a new shot today

PC#1: K6-III+ 400 | 512MB | Geforce4 | Voodoo1 | SB Live | AWE64 | GUS PNP Pro
PC#2: 486DX2-66 | 64MB | Riva128 | AWE64 | GUS PNP | PAS16
PC#3: 386DX-40 | 32MB | CL-GD5434 | SB Pro | GUS MAX | PAS16

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Reply 666 of 679, by cyclone3d

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Skalabala wrote on 2026-08-03, 23:05:
Sphere478 wrote on 2026-08-01, 02:30:

Is AI at the point yet where it can write us cool drivers? 😀

I tried it a year ago 🤣, no luck 🙁

It was able to write a jazz16 midi port switcher to switch between the onboard wave table, the wave blaster header and the external midi port.

But that was also with a lot of help on my part.

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Reply 667 of 679, by $SOLID$ Necro

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Skalabala wrote on 2017-02-12, 22:02:
Hi members :) It will be awesome if more members can join in with your fast K6 :D Show us your personal best. For now for clock […]
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Hi members 😀
It will be awesome if more members can join in with your fast K6 😁
Show us your personal best.
For now for clock speed under 600Mhz, this is my best.
CPU Z is part of the rules 😀

After 6 months, 300$, and 2x more gray hair, I have finally joined Skabala's silly 5k club =]

630MHZ AMD K6-3+ 400 ATZ @6x105 2.4v
Socket A cooler, copper base, modded (Bent) retention bracket
MX-7 thermal paste.
Tornado 60mm high flow fan
128MB ram CAS 2-2-2-5-8-8
Gigabyte GA5-AV Rev 4.1, F-4 bios
PNY GF-3 Ti200 @ 220x470
Det 7.76 driver
ALi AGP 1.82 driver
Turbo Mode Enabled (AGP 2x, GAT 2. Write Allocation Enabled W/Hole)
AGP Aperture 128mb
Win 98 SE
CTU 128mb Write Allocation Enabled.
Write Combining Enabled. (64mb Unchached/64mb Write Combined)
DX 7.0
5018 3DMark 2000

Reply 669 of 679, by $SOLID$ Necro

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Sphere478 wrote on 2026-09-02, 02:55:

How’s Halo run on it?

Hi! Don't know, never played it!
I have seen your posts in this thread...nice work!
I am a ID software kinda guy, and a Return to Castle Wolfenstein "Enemy Territory" player since launch. (Still play online nightly at the "Buffalo Bad Ass" server)
Quake was my gateway drug into gaming in 1998. Lots of Half Life, Quake 3 Arena, and Unreal Touranment at LAN parties.

I did briefly try Tom Raider on it. Found a copy that I don't know where it came from, and tried it to see if the CD was good.
I game on my Ryzen 9 9950x/ RTX 5070 daily driver...a bit overkill for ET!
I have other K-6/Vintage systems for retro gaming that I am finishing putting togther.
This is strictly a bench machine.

Reply 670 of 679, by supercordo

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Made a score board as of 9/2/2026

3DMark2000
#1 Skalabala @ 5608 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#2 Nedrodude @ 5171 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#3 austinham @ 5032 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#4 Mentat-vvo @ 5026 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#5 bloodem @ 5021 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#6 $SOLID$ Necro @ 5018 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#7 galanopu @ 4968 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#8 Supercordo @ 4933 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#9 Mamba @ 4710 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#10 Aebtdom @ 4660 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#11 Repo Man11 @ 4556 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#12 imperious @ 4496 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#13 SWZSSR @ 4315 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#14 lukas12p @ 4306 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#15 pa1983 @ 4038 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#16 pshipkov @ 3628 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#17 elianda @ 3253 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#18 sphere478 @ 3143 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.

Reply 671 of 679, by kennyPENTIUMpowers

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supercordo wrote on 2026-09-02, 05:15:
Made a score board as of 9/2/2026 […]
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Made a score board as of 9/2/2026

3DMark2000
#1 Skalabala @ 5608 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#2 Nedrodude @ 5171 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#3 austinham @ 5032 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#4 Mentat-vvo @ 5026 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#5 bloodem @ 5021 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#6 $SOLID$ Necro @ 5018 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#7 galanopu @ 4968 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#8 Supercordo @ 4933 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#9 Mamba @ 4710 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#10 Aebtdom @ 4660 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#11 Repo Man11 @ 4556 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#12 imperious @ 4496 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#13 SWZSSR @ 4315 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#14 lukas12p @ 4306 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#15 pa1983 @ 4038 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#16 pshipkov @ 3628 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#17 elianda @ 3253 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#18 sphere478 @ 3143 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.

this would be better if people mentioned what the cpu was marked as .. and also what the fsb and multipliers are..
just clicked on #18 to have a look and none of that info was there, just the scores..

Reply 672 of 679, by supercordo

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kennyPENTIUMpowers wrote on 2026-09-02, 08:18:
supercordo wrote on 2026-09-02, 05:15:
Made a score board as of 9/2/2026 […]
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Made a score board as of 9/2/2026

3DMark2000
#1 Skalabala @ 5608 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#2 Nedrodude @ 5171 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#3 austinham @ 5032 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#4 Mentat-vvo @ 5026 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#5 bloodem @ 5021 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#6 $SOLID$ Necro @ 5018 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#7 galanopu @ 4968 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#8 Supercordo @ 4933 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#9 Mamba @ 4710 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#10 Aebtdom @ 4660 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#11 Repo Man11 @ 4556 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#12 imperious @ 4496 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#13 SWZSSR @ 4315 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#14 lukas12p @ 4306 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#15 pa1983 @ 4038 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#16 pshipkov @ 3628 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#17 elianda @ 3253 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.
#18 sphere478 @ 3143 Re: AMD K6 3DMARK, aiming for stars.

this would be better if people mentioned what the cpu was marked as .. and also what the fsb and multipliers are..
just clicked on #18 to have a look and none of that info was there, just the scores..

Oh well.

Reply 673 of 679, by $SOLID$ Necro

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Oh well.
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I miss K-6.com, we lost so much info when it shut down, like steppings and OC results from them.
I used to run a OC forum section at PimpRig.com, and I would track/edit everyones scores and rank on the first post.
(Proto HWBOT)
It seems like you can't edit posts here, so that won't work .
Any ideas? I would love to see a form of it come back here.
Your hardware collection is prime for it, I have been lurking for a while and love the socket A "Stars" thread you made.

Reply 674 of 679, by supercordo

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yeah, this thread didnt really start with any rules like cpu-z in the screen shot. It not a competition, Just friendly overclocking.

Reply 675 of 679, by Mamba

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supercordo wrote on 2026-09-03, 00:32:

yeah, this thread didnt really start with any rules like cpu-z in the screen shot. It not a competition, Just friendly overclocking.

I always put CpuZ settings.
Even other settings if possible.

Reply 676 of 679, by Mamba

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Struggling with a P5A 1.04.
It won’t complete 3d mark 2000….
I used several Ali agp versions, always with my GeForce GTS that worked everywhere (7.76).

It is not a cpu related issue as it hangs even with lower frequencies than default.

Caps seems all ok.

Any bios setting I should check for this mainboard?

Thanks

Reply 677 of 679, by $SOLID$ Necro

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Mamba wrote on 2026-09-06, 09:30:
Struggling with a P5A 1.04. It won’t complete 3d mark 2000…. I used several Ali agp versions, always with my GeForce GTS that wo […]
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Struggling with a P5A 1.04.
It won’t complete 3d mark 2000….
I used several Ali agp versions, always with my GeForce GTS that worked everywhere (7.76).

It is not a cpu related issue as it hangs even with lower frequencies than default.

Caps seems all ok.

Any bios setting I should check for this mainboard?

Thanks

I spent the last 6 months re-learning socket Super 7, starting with a regular K6-2 533, GA5 AX rev. 1.4 and a MX 420. Tested a few other Nvidia cards, 3DFX cards, and ATI Cards too.
I ran into this exact issue several times on the GA5. Runs 3D99 fine, but wont finish 3D2K.
Eventually i got frustrated, reisntalled 98 (Without formatting) and it did the same thing.
Same problem it seems your having.
I noticed during boot, that the ATI "Message" from the driver still remained during boot up.
I ended up making a 98 boot disk and formatted the drive, starting fresh.
That seemed to fix it. it removed all the weird leftover junk a simple resintall would leave behind.

That reminds me! I think what the issue turned out to be, I was testing 32MB AGP aperture (bad advice on a 64MB card) so going to 64 MB fixed it, and going to 128MB gave an increase in score. is your GTS 32 or 64mb? What setting are you using?

The other weird thing, not sure it's related.
"Set up defaults" vs. "Load bios defaults" might have been part of the issue for some reason.
I had better luck with "Set up Defaults" and use this as my baseline.

So reset the bios to defaults, and try both options. and test.
If you do this back to back you can see what settings change (Withour rebooting).
Dont make any other changes to the bios (Unless you have to) and see if 3D2K completes.

One last thing, It could be heat related, and I am on a open test bench, and I sometimes use a small house fan too cool the entire thing (Pointing down from above) and sometimes I forget to turn it on, and it can get weird/ hang up.

Side note:
I finally got my P5A-B Rev 1.04 up and running. Its an OEM version stripped from a PC some one donated back in 08, so it only has 1 big DIN Keyboard connector and nothing else. Got a PS2 to DIN adapter and now can get to desktop. I have the little boards with P2-and USB , but no cables (Propietary pinout on USB/IR adapter unfortantely) so I still cant use a mouse. I am able to launch 99 through with the keyboard (Still usiing the same HD from the GA5) and it runs 99, but i cant run 3D2K ( its not in the start menu). I hope to have that issue resolved soon, and maybe i can try and duplicate your issue. Trying to find a good floppy (Binning floppies is now a thing, 🤣) cause my boot floppy died, so I cant update the bios to use the K6-3+ yet.

So yeah, if nothing else works, format the drive, set bios to "Set up defaults" install ALI 1.82, then DX 7, and 7.76 video drivers. Stock GPU, RAM, and GPU settings too. No extra software other then what bare minumum. This seems to work best for me. You've been around a while, so you know its like chasing your tale some days, so going back to square 1 is a PITA, but it often fixes weird issues. Probably not telling you anything you didnt allready know...but its what comes to mind for me. Miss one simple step, have the wrong setting and you got "Issues" like the 3D2k one your having.

Asked Grok his opinion on my advice before posting, and he added this:
"If it still dies after a clean format + Setup Defaults + Ali 1.82 → DX7 → 7.76 at stock, tell us: exact hang point (which scene), aperture size, Ali utility frame-buffer setting, RAM amount, and BIOS rev. That combo is what separates leftover-driver junk from an actual AGP timing problem on 1.04."

Reply 678 of 679, by Mamba

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Thanks for the suggestions.
Overheating is not an issue, I tried multiple settings, downvoting/underclocking/different chips, same result .
I am now under a socket A cooler anyway.
Hangs happen with multiple options for Ali agp utility, agp aperture is always 64; 32 didn’t change.
It stops 30% during helicopter second test and 70% during adventure second test.

Changed the GTS for a Radeon 7500 64mb and everything is normal.

So I suspect it is the GTS, maybe it dislikes my P5A…. It was ok on an AL9 and a GA-5AX….
Strange

Reply 679 of 679, by $SOLID$ Necro

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Mamba wrote on Today, 05:50:
Thanks for the suggestions. Overheating is not an issue, I tried multiple settings, downvoting/underclocking/different chips, sa […]
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Thanks for the suggestions.
Overheating is not an issue, I tried multiple settings, downvoting/underclocking/different chips, same result .
I am now under a socket A cooler anyway.
Hangs happen with multiple options for Ali agp utility, agp aperture is always 64; 32 didn’t change.
It stops 30% during helicopter second test and 70% during adventure second test.

Changed the GTS for a Radeon 7500 64mb and everything is normal.

So I suspect it is the GTS, maybe it dislikes my P5A…. It was ok on an AL9 and a GA-5AX….
Strange

No problem, tried to cover all the bases.

Sounds like the board /cpu/ram play nice after a video card swap. Its supposed to be king of the hill, and from what I can see in the bios, it has way more options then my GA5 AX did. Have you had time to unleash it a bit now that you have a good card working?

I have seen a few people in this thread find combos that just dont play nice. I think someone else in this thread had a GTS that didnt work, but its twin did.