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Reply 20 of 23, by Boohyaka

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well yeah I agree there..I'm all for restoring and preserving rare hardware, but in the end this is just rare and obsolete, and has pretty much 0 usefulness anymore (even in retro circles). No need to go all out on premium parts.

Reply 21 of 23, by shevalier

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rasz_pl wrote on 2026-08-03, 16:02:
TELVM wrote on 2026-07-30, 14:27:

On such a rare and expensive piece of lab equipment

Did you meant obsolete and unsupported? Its 25 years old and was build to help debug original 11Mbit 802.11b wifi, 2G GSM and DECT. Today you can do everything and more with a $500 KiwiSDR

50/50
If this specific measuring equipment is the de facto industry standard, then why not?
For example, the same Audio Precision System One (1985y).
Measurements taken with it inspire more trust than many others.

Aopen MX3S, PIII-S Tualatin 1133, Radeon 9800Pro@XT BIOS, Audigy 4 SB0610
JetWay K8T8AS, Athlon DH-E6 3000+, Radeon HD2600Pro AGP, Audigy 2 Value SB0400
Gigabyte Ga-k8n51gmf, Turion64 ML-30@2.2GHz , Radeon X800GTO PL16, Diamond monster sound MX300

Reply 22 of 23, by rasz_pl

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shevalier wrote on 2026-08-04, 06:07:

For example, the same Audio Precision System One (1985y).
Measurements taken with it inspire more trust than many others.

Audio bw didnt change, radio channel widths did. Cant use this for modern wifi, gsm, DOCSIS. What this can still be used for can be handled by student aimed tools like $200 https://www.analog.com/en/resources/evaluatio … dalm-pluto.html or $400 https://digilent.com/shop/analog-discovery-3/ (with additional frontend) using modern cheap/free software.

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS Zenith Z-386 MFM-300 ZBIOS disassembly

Reply 23 of 23, by shevalier

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rasz_pl wrote on 2026-08-04, 12:35:
Audio bw didnt change, […]
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shevalier wrote on 2026-08-04, 06:07:

For example, the same Audio Precision System One (1985y).
Measurements taken with it inspire more trust than many others.



Audio bw didnt change,


Yes, of course.
Not counting the 20dB (10-fold) reduction in noise and distortion of the Audio Precision APX5xx series 😀
(Setting aside the addition of HDMI and Bluetooth inputs, which allow for audio stream measurement via these interfaces),
the System One is more than enough for hobbies and even medium-scale production
As I said, it’s a 50/50.
Some industrial test gear ages gracefully, and some just doesn't.

Aopen MX3S, PIII-S Tualatin 1133, Radeon 9800Pro@XT BIOS, Audigy 4 SB0610
JetWay K8T8AS, Athlon DH-E6 3000+, Radeon HD2600Pro AGP, Audigy 2 Value SB0400
Gigabyte Ga-k8n51gmf, Turion64 ML-30@2.2GHz , Radeon X800GTO PL16, Diamond monster sound MX300