douglar wrote on 2026-08-13, 03:52:

appiah4 wrote on 2026-08-12, 06:35:

cyclone3d wrote on 2026-08-12, 02:15:

Working on setting up a test setup for agp 1x-4x cards as well as a couple different Linux Live USB sticks for testing different […]
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Working on setting up a test setup for agp 1x-4x cards as well as a couple different Linux Live USB sticks for testing different eras of cards... So I don't have to bother with Windows and different drivers.

Settled on a KT333 motherboard.

Live Linux USBs will be

Knoppix 3.4 for the older stuff

Slax KillBill 5.1.8 (has wine built in) for not as old stuff

It took quite a bit of doing to find the Slax KillBill. Had to download it via the way back machine.

This is all so I can fully test video cards I don't need before I stick them up for sale (not here of course)

I really, really, really need to clear out a lot of hardware.

I am planning on also posting more stuff in the giveaway thread here very soon.

I love KT333, it is the ultimate universal AGP motherboard IMO. Unfortunately, I can not find one. I used an MSI KT3 for half a decade back in the day, but apparently that chipset was fairly short lived? A lot of KT400s around, but KT333s seem to be gone. Could possibly be due to cap plague as well.

Anyway, I did manage to find a KM266 and I am using that with an AthlonXP 2200+ as my Turbo Voodoo 3 PC 😀

I found an asus a7v333 board a few months back. yes, it’s a very universal board, especially if you can get an athlon xp-m cpu for it. it’s worked with every agp card that I’ve thrown at it from early rage cards through a 6800gt and clocks from 500 to 2000 mhz via the bios. and the caps are solid. Maybe a fan on the heat sink is a good idea though.

But back in the day, a 400mhz front side bus seemed much more important than compatibility with crusty old cards.

My 8K3A+ was a great overclocker - I ran it at 209 MHz FSB for a long time. I was able to push it up to 215, but hard drive performance fell off sharply above 209. I probably would have stuck with it until I was ready to move to an Athlon 64, but I took a look one day in about August of 2004 and saw that the caps were bulging, so I replaced it with an 8RDA3+. It wouldn't go much above 166 when I first got it, but the northbridge heat sink was just a bit of aluminum attached with some very thin tape, and it was convex to boot. Once I put something better on, it was smooth sailing.

douglar wrote on 2026-08-13, 03:52:

appiah4 wrote on 2026-08-12, 06:35:

cyclone3d wrote on 2026-08-12, 02:15:

Working on setting up a test setup for agp 1x-4x cards as well as a couple different Linux Live USB sticks for testing different […]
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Working on setting up a test setup for agp 1x-4x cards as well as a couple different Linux Live USB sticks for testing different eras of cards... So I don't have to bother with Windows and different drivers.

Settled on a KT333 motherboard.

Live Linux USBs will be

Knoppix 3.4 for the older stuff

Slax KillBill 5.1.8 (has wine built in) for not as old stuff

It took quite a bit of doing to find the Slax KillBill. Had to download it via the way back machine.

This is all so I can fully test video cards I don't need before I stick them up for sale (not here of course)

I really, really, really need to clear out a lot of hardware.

I am planning on also posting more stuff in the giveaway thread here very soon.

I love KT333, it is the ultimate universal AGP motherboard IMO. Unfortunately, I can not find one. I used an MSI KT3 for half a decade back in the day, but apparently that chipset was fairly short lived? A lot of KT400s around, but KT333s seem to be gone. Could possibly be due to cap plague as well.

Anyway, I did manage to find a KM266 and I am using that with an AthlonXP 2200+ as my Turbo Voodoo 3 PC 😀

I found an asus a7v333 board a few months back. yes, it’s a very universal board, especially if you can get an athlon xp-m cpu for it. it’s worked with every agp card that I’ve thrown at it from early rage cards through a 6800gt and clocks from 500 to 2000 mhz via the bios. and the caps are solid. Maybe a fan on the heat sink is a good idea though.

But back in the day, a 400mhz front side bus seemed much more important than compatibility with crusty old cards.

Nice motherboard indeed

douglar wrote on 2026-08-13, 03:52:

appiah4 wrote on 2026-08-12, 06:35:

cyclone3d wrote on 2026-08-12, 02:15:

Working on setting up a test setup for agp 1x-4x cards as well as a couple different Linux Live USB sticks for testing different […]
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Working on setting up a test setup for agp 1x-4x cards as well as a couple different Linux Live USB sticks for testing different eras of cards... So I don't have to bother with Windows and different drivers.

Settled on a KT333 motherboard.

Live Linux USBs will be

Knoppix 3.4 for the older stuff

Slax KillBill 5.1.8 (has wine built in) for not as old stuff

It took quite a bit of doing to find the Slax KillBill. Had to download it via the way back machine.

This is all so I can fully test video cards I don't need before I stick them up for sale (not here of course)

I really, really, really need to clear out a lot of hardware.

I am planning on also posting more stuff in the giveaway thread here very soon.

I love KT333, it is the ultimate universal AGP motherboard IMO. Unfortunately, I can not find one. I used an MSI KT3 for half a decade back in the day, but apparently that chipset was fairly short lived? A lot of KT400s around, but KT333s seem to be gone. Could possibly be due to cap plague as well.

Anyway, I did manage to find a KM266 and I am using that with an AthlonXP 2200+ as my Turbo Voodoo 3 PC 😀

I found an asus a7v333 board a few months back. yes, it’s a very universal board, especially if you can get an athlon xp-m cpu for it. it’s worked with every agp card that I’ve thrown at it from early rage cards through a 6800gt and clocks from 500 to 2000 mhz via the bios. and the caps are solid. Maybe a fan on the heat sink is a good idea though.

But back in the day, a 400mhz front side bus seemed much more important than compatibility with crusty old cards.

Do not be tempted to get a Gigabyte implementation of a KT333, they really messed up the AGP slot power and either let too much noise on the bus or other lines, because you could not get anything better than a GF2 fully stable on them. It would seem okay but crash out of 3D intensive stuff in 5 mins to 5 hours. Add to that that every glitch dumps you back to retail BIOS instead of one of their numerous attempts at fixing it, because it's got some halfassed dual bios "safety" feature. I bought one new, and attempted to RMA several times but they were deflecting with "Get a better PSU" so $400 in PSUs later it's still doing it and my warranty is out. DAYS after that they admit an AGP problem and have a fix. Fix is only a mitigation, and all they did to the 2.0 version, so it's like you're still trying to sleep with a hungry crocodile, but they've given it an appetite suppressant. i.e. it absolutely will routinely bite you in the ass, but a bit less often.

Anyway, still have that POS VRX but not sure if I will give it any important role. It's back burnered so far that it's sitting on a wax melter in the guest bedroom (figuratively) but given that I have more variety of GPU to swap round, one day I might play musical GPUs to see if I can find one that tolerates it's bullshit. Time consuming though due to the aforementioned inconsistency of problems occurring in minutes to hours.

versawizkid2002 wrote on 2026-08-12, 13:38:

Yesterday, I picked up this Radeon 9000 Pro All-in-Wonder for free locally. (Outlink to Imgur album)

These days you gotta take whatever you can get for AGP as it's hard to justify the modern day asking prices for even low end cards. This one had its fan replaced with one that doesn't fit onto the board's connector, so I'll have to see about hacking in another compatible fan or splicing the connector. Not sure if the fan not plugged in, the GPU itself, or Radeon driver 5.13 under Windows 2000 is causing certain graphics not to display properly. Oh, if y'all have a preferred series of drivers for R200 and Kelvin (under either 9x or NT5) then do let me know.

The graphical quirks I had stemmed from the initial driver setup with both 5.13 and 6.2. I also tried 4.3 but that's not ideal on a system like this due to an incomplete ACPI implementation - as Win2K will bluescreen and restart upon a shutdown instead of displaying the Safe to shutdown screen. The GPU itself seems to be working nicely otherwise, though I'm not going to stress it until I can hack together a fan.

Test fit of a combination of video and sound cards in an Pentium 4 / DFI G4E620-N motherboard setup. This is a potential triple GPU / quad sound card build.

Currently debating if I want to try this as a full build or leave this one to the experimental bin.

Shponglefan wrote on Yesterday, 15:26:

Test fit of a combination of video and sound cards in an Pentium 4 / DFI G4E620-N motherboard setup. This is a potential triple […]
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Test fit of a combination of video and sound cards in an Pentium 4 / DFI G4E620-N motherboard setup. This is a potential triple GPU / quad sound card build.

Currently debating if I want to try this as a full build or leave this one to the experimental bin.

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It's not installed in anything, but I have a board lying around with mostly network and sound cards installed, plus one video card. Resource conflicts abound, probably. 🤣

Shponglefan wrote on Yesterday, 15:26:

Test fit of a combination of video and sound cards in an Pentium 4 / DFI G4E620-N motherboard setup. This is a potential triple […]
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Test fit of a combination of video and sound cards in an Pentium 4 / DFI G4E620-N motherboard setup. This is a potential triple GPU / quad sound card build.

Currently debating if I want to try this as a full build or leave this one to the experimental bin.

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Pentium 4 with ISA! I wonder if things like NMI work on that platform.

Coordinated with another user to host two bios revisions, for a Gateway AIO from 2006, which were seemingly unavailable anywhere online and lost to time. I spent yesterday flashing them across two different board revisions and testing cpu compatibility, after successfully repairing a bent socket pin.

Replaced some bulging caps in my partner's XP computer in the VRM section, this REALLY pushed what my current soldering stuff could do and not in a fun way. (Massive ground plane) but it got done and actually helped a tiny bit with an extremely loud coil-whine esc issue that has been happening in that PC. Hopefully a new power supply resolves that completely.

Also got C51 and a replacement caps lock keyswitch in for my Apple IIc in, so that is completely "restored" in so much as it can be without doing needless work. Waiting on a diagnostics disk so I can triple check everything but it seems to be working completely perfectly. I don't think it's going to end up being for me in the end, but it has been fun to work on.

Tried setting up USBLoader GX on my Wii, stayed up until 2am trying and finally got it working today... in SD card mode since it turns out my Wii really just doesn't like the USB I have.
on the plus side at least I know how to back up my Wii games now, although I need to figure out if it's possible to do it any faster. (I tried with Wii Play and despite that game being very small, it dumped the entire DVD's size anyway)

VanillaFairy wrote on Today, 15:01:

Tried setting up USBLoader GX on my Wii, stayed up until 2am trying and finally got it working today... in SD card mode since it turns out my Wii really just doesn't like the USB I have.
on the plus side at least I know how to back up my Wii games now, although I need to figure out if it's possible to do it any faster. (I tried with Wii Play and despite that game being very small, it dumped the entire DVD's size anyway)

You used CleanRip, yeah? Or a different app?

TheMLGladiator wrote on Yesterday, 20:18:

Pentium 4 with ISA! I wonder if things like NMI work on that platform.

Not sure if it would work. From what I've looked up it looks like it's mainly AWE32/AWE64 cards that use it? Or at least it's the most common example that comes up from a google search.

RetroLizard wrote on Today, 15:08:

You used CleanRip, yeah? Or a different app?

CleanRip, yeah.

VanillaFairy wrote on Today, 15:40:

RetroLizard wrote on Today, 15:08:

You used CleanRip, yeah? Or a different app?

CleanRip, yeah.

I'm pretty sure that'll copy the entire disc regardless of how small it is.

Shponglefan wrote on Today, 15:16:

TheMLGladiator wrote on Yesterday, 20:18:

Pentium 4 with ISA! I wonder if things like NMI work on that platform.

Not sure if it would work. From what I've looked up it looks like it's mainly AWE32/AWE64 cards that use it? Or at least it's the most common example that comes up from a google search.

Not sure if any other cards use it, but the AWE32/AWE64 use it for their MPU401 emulation so MIDI can be played back through the EMU8000 chip in games that don't natively support it.