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First post, by Ozzuneoj

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I'm sure this is going to sound really weird to anyone that uses scented detergent or dryer sheets in their laundry (or maybe air fresheners), but I have been noticing this for years and I find it really unsettling.

Over the past 6 years or so I have been getting computers from an acquaintance of mine that does e-waste for a fairly large organization. Rather than chuck all the computers, he'll give me a whole bunch of them to reuse or pull parts out of (I got 25 of them earlier this year... yikes). They mostly come out of different offices in different buildings scattered across a huge area... multiple counties in a north eastern US state.

What I have noticed is that about 80% of these systems have the same noxious fake flowery scent to them and the dust in them is, no joke, STICKY. If I blow them out (outdoors!!), the whole area smells like this flowery smell and a lot of times the dust needs to be scrubbed or wiped off of fans and surfaces for it to actually come off (despite using one of these... which actually works as a small leaf blower).

If I get a system that does NOT smell like this (and is not really disgusting from grease\moisture), any dust in the system usually blows right out cleanly and doesn't stick to anything at all. Some of these systems are 10-15 years old, others are a lot newer. Generally the older ones are dustier and will have a stronger flowery smell to them from more years of use, but even the 12 year old Optiplex systems that do not smell like this come clean much more easily than a 4-5 year old system that does. The stinky stuff is definitely sticky.

I thought at first (years ago) that it was maybe people using popular air fresheners or household cleaners... and I guess that is still possible... but as years went by and I was getting more and more of them I realized that it is just too pervasive and it is always exactly the same smell. I also buy a lot of old parts and systems online and I have gotten boxes, packing material, PCs or individual components that also have this same noxious flowery smell that fills the room.

My wife and I have used unscented laundry detergent for 14+ years and haven't used dryer sheets in at least 10, so I have no idea what brand this smell is.

Anyway... I don't know if people realize just how nose-blind we can get to smells like this, but if you use scented detergent or dryer sheets you may want to consider switching. Whatever this is cannot be healthy.

If this substance coats a piece of steel to the point that it needs to be scrubbed clean, the smell fills a room if the PC is turned on inside after cleaning and it smells so strongly that a PC that hasn't been used in years can noticeably give off a nauseating synthetic flower smell when the side panel is removed outdoors it cannot be good for our lungs.

Remember, these computers come from the workplaces of people who, presumably, are doing their laundry at home. How so much of this substance can get transferred to computers is just mind blowing... and I shudder to think about what is inside these poor peoples' lungs who are doing the laundry, wearing the clothes and sleeping on the pillow cases covered in this stuff. I don't know if there are microplastics involved or something else that is even worse, but it just does not seem good to be breathing this stuff in.

The only other things that give me this much trouble cleaning PCs are cigarette smoke, grease\oil and extreme filth from having too many pets.

Last edited by Ozzuneoj on 2026-08-23, 23:44. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 1 of 12, by jakethompson1

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I've noticed this too. Similarly, after staying in a hotel and getting home and unpacking your luggage, often you'll notice a perfume scent in your clothes.

Reply 2 of 12, by BitWrangler

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The scented candle fad and scentsy etc wax melters could also be a culprit.

I got one ages back, woman must have done her makeup in front of it constantly, had packed cosmetic powder in the fans.

Edit: Oh by the way, it was a reported "lifehack" some time ago to use the spun fibre type dryer sheets (the ones kinda open, not the ones that seem like baking parchment) to use as filters to "Keep dust out of your fan and freshen the room at the same time." ergh.

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Reply 3 of 12, by onethirdxcubed

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I think the flowery smelling dust is from Febreze overuse, and I do find a lot of this in computers used in offices now. Vintage dust seems to be lighter grey and fluffier (home use), or brown/sticky (tobacco tar), or black grime (garage/machine shop).

Reply 4 of 12, by jakethompson1

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Might also be worth mentioning when cleaning out old PCs that household dust is considered a big pathway for PFAS exposure, because it contains ground up bits of PFOS-saturated fabrics, and in vintage times that (Scotchgard) was used indiscriminately because it was falsely thought to be biologically inert.

Reply 5 of 12, by cyclone3d

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I've noticed this as well.

After observing this and seeing where these types of machines come from, you will most likely notice that all of these places have either Glade or other types of automatic air fresheners.

I can only imagine what that trash is doing to our lungs as the deposits are very similar to tar from cigarettes.

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Reply 6 of 12, by gerry

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yes, those plug in and auto "air freshener" that fill the air with chemicals, and possibly some moisture and those candles too. if old office PCs they might smell of carpet cleaning stuff used in offices, possibly similar in smell over time. In combination these may just deposit enough chemical, moisture and "stuff" over the years (moved in via fans) such that it collects and becomes concentrated.

or its evidence of computery alien blobs!

Reply 7 of 12, by Barley

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I've noticed that most used cases and parts I acquire have the same smell, but it's mostly mold and mildew odor 🙁.

Reply 8 of 12, by ratfink

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I hadn't noticed a floral smell but there's a distinct chemical smell from certain older gear.

There's also a distinct citrus smell from certain kinds of batteries - eg CR2.

And old cameras seem to have a particular smell too, the old leather or glue I guess, or sometimes the lubricant has got really old (or been replaced with something that stinks like diesel...).

I always worried about the residue left by those room fresheners, and from people putting aromatic oils in candle burners or in clay tubes to hang on (incandescent) light bulbs. Incense too isn't exactly good for you either, and leaves residue.

Reply 9 of 12, by wierd_w

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I'll take the "Scentsy cases" over the "Eureka, 50 dogs, and not a single groomer" ones.

Reply 10 of 12, by momaka

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Glad to see a topic on this. Most people don't care and most places I've been to (online or IRL), no one seems to care anyways, so I figured it's a moot point to raise a matter.

Having lived in the USA for a little over 20 years, I can safely say this is very much a NA (USA and Canada) issue (and maybe some parts of "West" Europe too... but probably not as bad.) When I came to the US for a visit this summer again, the 1st thing I noticed when I went for a bike ride in the neighborhood was exactly this smell - and that's from outside the street!! I can't imagine what it's like in peoples' homes. Actually, I can, because I've been to quite a few. It's quite repugnant, IMO. I'd rather get the smell of an old mouldy house than the same smell with 100x stronger air-freshener smell mixed on top of this.

Most family friends I know or knew use either spray bottle or plug-in air fresheners. Sometimes scented candles too. But that's not all of it. A lot of cleaning/maid services also use cleaners with really heavy scents. So that's why offices and office PCs can have that smell too. When freshly sprayed, most of these scents might appear to be different or at least slightly different. But they are all based oil-based and derived in a similar way chemically... so it shouldn't be a surprise that after some time, the leftover smell becomes very similar.

This shit is indeed BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH, though nowhere near as bad as ciggarette smoke. More like vape smoke, but probably in lighter form.

Interestingly enough, about 10 years ago, I read a news article online (so perhaps take this with a grain of salt maybe?) highlighting a study/research that pointed out some (well, many) of the adverse affects of air fresheners and synthetically scented stuff. I wish I had saved it. But in a nutshell, what I remember is that most of the VOC particles from fresheners and scents are rather large in size. Therefore, they are not as terrible for the lungs as, say, very fine particles (which often can get lodged in much deeper into the lung's alveoli and never make it back out.) However, the study suggested that overexposure to these scents over time could lead to the person developing various allergies and asthma, just the same as if the person had worked long time in a field where they were exposed to non-toxic large particle dust (e.g. carpentry.) Funny enough, fumes from mild soldering fluxes are also mostly full of larger and usually not toxic particles... so unless ya'll are soldering for 8+ hours a day with no ventilation, you're probably doing much better than those people who use the strongly scented stuff / air fresheners in their homes. 🤣
The study I mentioned also pointed out that people in the US & Canada have disproportionately more allergies compared to people elsewhere in the world. It did admit that these scented products aren't the main cause... but very likely adding to it. And finally, it also mentioned a small but measurable relation between obesity rates and use of scented products. But due to the number of study cases behind that being too small, it was not possible to establish a direct link between the two. Very likely the organic and synthetic oils used in some of the scented products were the reason why.

Anyways, me I never liked those fake "pretty" smells. And yeah, having been collecting PCs for almost 20 years, I too have noticed how much harder it is to clean the dust from such machines. I think the worst was a small LCD TV I fixed for a friend family of my mother. There was not much dust in it, but anything I touched was sticky and had that smell. What's funny is that the electrolytic capacitors (all of which needed changing) still strongly have this scented smell 15 years later in my junk bins. (Now, as for why I keep old crummy electrolytic caps... well, that's probably for another topic. Part of it is for bragging, I suppose - to show how many devices actually fail from bad caps. But I also started using the round rubber bungs a few years ago as replacement for lost rubber feet for various electronics, as posted on BCN here - scroll to post #548.)

That being said, I'm starting to notice that now also more and more stuff I get in Bulgaria (Eastern Europe) are starting to get similar smells. But it's nowhere near as often I run into stuff like this. Maybe out of 50 item, I might find one or two that do smell. The rest just have no (fake/scented) smell. I really hope this fake smell trend never picks up around here. On the plus side, perhaps that's one positive to living in a poorer country - people just don't have money for this shit. Instead, many people prefer to spend/waste their money on other stuff... like beer. That, I have no problem with. 😀 However, many more people smoke cigarettes here compared to NA. So in terms of cleaning old PCs, I can't say I have it any better. 🤣

Reply 11 of 12, by Rwolf

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One thing related to citrus smell is that I know there was a change of cleaning solvents to citrus based liquids some years ago, in order to make washing away solder resin from newly manufactured pcb:s more eco-friendly. Could this possibly still giving off a citrus scent?

Better than the tar-covered innards I found in one frequent cigar-smokers PC at one time; you could follow the airflow thorugh the machine as a brown streak, and it did give all dustbunnies a home for awhile.

Reply 12 of 12, by bakemono

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My old Lifebook B6110D and my Versapro VY10F would emit a similar scent when the CPU fan came on. I figured it was the scent of Pentium Ms.

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