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Reply 1140 of 1148, by TheIpex

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zapbuzz wrote on 2026-02-13, 18:09:

I drive a 2004 Holden VZ Commodore Lumina.
It has a 3.6L V6 engine.
Made for Australia they are no longer trading so they are slowly dying out.

I do miss those days when it was all VY/VZ Commodores and BA/BF Falcons. Everyone I knew seemed to have one, myself included.

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Reply 1141 of 1148, by y2k se

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zapbuzz wrote on 2026-02-13, 18:09:

I drive a 2004 Holden VZ Commodore Lumina.
It has a 3.6L V6 engine.
Made for Australia they are no longer trading so they are slowly dying out.

The engine still has an active descendant: the twin-turbocharged LF4 currently used in the Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing which is unfortunately ending production this year.

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Reply 1142 of 1148, by BitWrangler

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cleanroom_dweller wrote on 2026-02-15, 05:32:

I drive a beat up 2013 Kia Forte, its better than no car even though it sucks and has seen better days. Couldn't afford any better when I got it, now that I have money my spending priority is retro tech and storage media stockpiling, and only now have I started saving for a new car after the transmission damn near died on the road a few times cause it has very occasional issues that are real bad when they show up.

Sad to hear, though 2 of those that came through the fam never showed transmission symptoms, they were all about dash electrics being flaky, particularly blower motor that kept melting it's connectors for some reason.

So strangely, I might have a stray part or two that could fit that... and also parts that could fit a Commodore VE... via Pontiac G8... was gonna do an "autojumble" auto flea market/carboot in last fall and get shot of some crap for vehicles I don't have any more, or never had (some surplus buys with an eye to mods), but I pulled my back the week before and couldn't assemble the load. Unfortunately I pre-informed dear lady wife in advance of intentions to clear car junk, so now I have to sit on my throne of lies haynes manuals and look for another one in range when the season starts.

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Reply 1143 of 1148, by BitWrangler

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BitWrangler wrote on 2025-05-29, 03:17:

Though still pinging back and forth on whether I'll get the vehicle these might go on. Contrary choices are 2013-2016 German diesels, like a MLK250, GLK250, X3 xdrive28d, back and forth on whether to consider a Q5 at all. Still on that 30mpg "tow pig" kick, and mildly enthusiastic about the promise of renewable diesel. The flash in the pan was it 2 year or only really 1.5 diesel CX5 is tempting for more mod cons from 2019, but finding one will be a PITA, then there's the complete lack of parts thing and nobody knowing shit about them to fix them. Though gas CX5 from that era just before they put the CVT in seem to do good.

Well, in recent times, seems like I dodged a bullet by not going the diesel route at the moment. Be interesting to see if such vehicles get REALLY cheap though, could get tempting to get one for a toy/project.... though the toy end might more apply to a diesel Liberty or Grand Cherokee. I kinda hope this highly expensive petro diesel is improving things in the renewable diesel field. There was meant to be something going on where you could basically grow a tank of algae, then electrocute it (solar) and end up with a diesel substitute.

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Reply 1144 of 1148, by The Solutor

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Currently nothing, usually a turbo diesel, 800cc, Smart fortwo 100KM with 3L (77.62 mpg in stone age units)

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Reply 1145 of 1148, by BitWrangler

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The Solutor wrote on Today, 05:25:
Currently nothing, usually a turbo diesel, 800cc, Smart fortwo 100KM with 3L (77.62 mpg in stone age units) […]
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Currently nothing, usually a turbo diesel, 800cc, Smart fortwo 100KM with 3L (77.62 mpg in stone age units)

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I wish you good luck in your hunt, if that means you are looking for your next one. I wanted to like them, but they got seriously nobbled (detuned) on this continent. In the European market they can save you money on more than just fuel, with the road tax rates being on a sliding scale many places, and congestion charges in large cities going according to size.

Over here though, apart from a handful of very tight downtowns where the "city car" qualities shine in parking and getting around, they are more like you bought half a car, but still have to pay about the same in fuel, insurance, tax/permit fees, as a "full" small car like an economy hatchback or civic for the gas, or passat/golf/jetta diesel for the diesel version. Maybe it was only the Canadian market got the diesel, don't see the US figures. Anyway, works out something like 35mpg in the gas while requiring the most expensive premium fuel, and ~50mpg on the diesel. Which all makes the "smart" name seem false. I guess the diesel is just about "smarter" than the gas version here still though, price delta on recent premium vs diesel prices I've seen says it's like getting a 40mpg gas version. I think a major part of the market for them here is actually "dinghy" aka "toad" for large RVs, wherein the big rig is parked up for a spell at the campsite and the smart is used as a grocery runner and day tripper.

Every time I see one cheap though, I start daydreaming about putting the diesel motor in one of the small Suzuki 4x4s, or an MG Midget, MGB or Triumph spitfire shell.

But we've got our 3l/100km ride in the 2025 Escape (Kuga) PHEV, it was getting 2.8l/100 on a tank plus just under $1 of electric per day for doing the daily commute for my wife. But then we have been on an 80% charge restriction, while Ford figured out how to unfuck/detect Samsung's manufacturing failures in the battery cells. Actual defects seem to be in the 1 per thousand range or lower in this year. However, they just got the updated battery management rolled out and we should be back to full charge soon. Meanwhile we were getting more like mid 3s with 20% less battery help. It does about 5/100 on long trips when the battery is used up, but often you can bring that down to low 4s if you go to EV later mode as soon as you get to highway speed, then turn it back on again when you get off the highway each end.

My '25 Maverick hybrid AWD was only just getting run in by summer, so tank averages have been in the 6/100 range, it is coming down though, got a nice 150 mile run in a month or so back where I held it to 4.8/100. (~50mpg US, 59mpg IMP)

On either of those though, we notice a "tipping point" with around 31C outside temperatures, where the electric can't run the AC by itself, and has to run the IC more, such that the gas mileage takes a 5mpg hit. A similar thing happens in winter for the heat in freezing temps. Evens out a bit more on longer runs, due to catching up with the heatsoak or cold soak, and you can adjust temperature a bit higher in summer, lower in winter to edge of comfortable to help. Or if you're in serious fuel saver mode, drive in the cooler part of the day in summer, warmer part in winter. Talking of fuel saver modes, ECO mode on these, isn't, well compared to our driving attuned to getting reasonable mileage out of 4cyl econoboxes over the years, maybe it does better than the unpracticed average Joe. So yeah, if you've got a Ford, try slippery mode rather than Eco, does better on both of ours.

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Reply 1146 of 1148, by Dothan Burger

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BitWrangler wrote on Today, 14:43:

ECO mode on these, isn't, well compared to our driving attuned to getting reasonable mileage out of 4cyl econoboxes over the years, maybe it does better than the unpracticed average Joe. So yeah, if you've got a Ford, try slippery mode rather than Eco, does better on both of ours.

What I liked about ECO mode in the company's 24 Maverick was it didn't sling shot me off when setting the cruise control, it just eased up to speed.

Here's my 99 Grand Cherokee with 83,000 miles. Only 3 more years and I can put historical plates on her and quit paying registration fees.

Reply 1147 of 1148, by BitWrangler

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Midwest seems to get the best deal with historic plates. In Ontario they are very restrictive, and you need agreed value insurance with Haggerty or other specialist insurer, who will likely not agree to insure a low value car, i.e. your generic corolla or whatever. Plus it can't be your only vehicle. So I personally would prefer to get regular plates on something up to 40 years old so I could actually enjoy the thing. Nice Sunday afternoon, wanna go for a drive? NO, not unless enrolled on an official club cruise or booked into an event/show that you're going to, yeesh.

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Reply 1148 of 1148, by Dothan Burger

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BitWrangler wrote on Today, 17:35:

Midwest seems to get the best deal with historic plates. In Ontario they are very restrictive, and you need agreed value insurance with Haggerty or other specialist insurer, who will likely not agree to insure a low value car, i.e. your generic corolla or whatever. Plus it can't be your only vehicle. So I personally would prefer to get regular plates on something up to 40 years old so I could actually enjoy the thing. Nice Sunday afternoon, wanna go for a drive? NO, not unless enrolled on an official club cruise or booked into an event/show that you're going to, yeesh.

We just need regular insurance to get historical plates. And we have restrictions too: may only be used for test drives, parades and hobby-related activities. Well my hobby is driving to work.