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First post, by fix_metal

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Hello everyone,

I've got a PC Chips/Gain Tech M912 [0] for my 486 setup which allowed me to put a DX4ODRO100. As we know this overdrive cpu doesn't require an overdrive socket as it comes with a voltage regulator for 3.3V voltage.

Although, the mobo has native 5V or 3.3V support and it's also marked compatible to DX4 on the silk screen.

The issue is the 3.3V is totally rippled and in an extra caring effort I would like to get it back to clean.

Now I can spot only one TO220 transistor which has also a minimal heatsink which makes me think it's the one doing the voltage regulating. It's also have 1% resistors very close to it, which really makes me think it's the one. I can't spot any leaking caps, and the system is totally fine and stable by setting the mobo to 5V and let the ODPR do the work with it's regulator.

What's anyone experience on this? Does the ripple typically get cascaded from the PSU or it's due to the regulation into the motherboard most of the times? Is there a circuit reference for the regulation part - like, this was the de-facto standard back in the days?

Thanks to anyone who are keen to help.

[0] https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/pcchips-m912-v1.4-486

Reply 1 of 3, by fix_metal

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Hello all,

a small update in the WIP. The circuit is a 2SC4242 + TL431 leveraging on the standard Series Pass Regulator circuit offered in the TL431 datasheet [0]. The only difference is the mobo is missing out the bypass capacitor. I've tried putting a 10nF ceramic cap, the ripple seems to be having a better reading by then, but it doesn't seem to be sufficient, as at the start of a VGA benchmark the PC just freezes as before.

To be honest the symbol reminds me more of a electrolytic cap rather than a non-polarized one. While typing this I've looked on the internet and found a reference circuit with a 10uF in place [1].

Maybe I'll give it a final try with 10uF in that position. I've got some 10uF ceramic SMD anyway.

[0] https://www.onsemi.com/download/data-sheet/pdf/tl431-d.pdf
[1] https://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Blog/precision- … uit-design.html

Reply 2 of 3, by rasz_pl

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> PC Chips

oh but of course 😀

since you fitted ODPRDX4 there is nothing on this board using 3.3V = reg with no load oscillates, harmless

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https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS Zenith Z-386 MFM-300 ZBIOS disassembly

Reply 3 of 3, by fix_metal

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rasz_pl wrote on Today, 02:57:

> PC Chips

oh but of course 😀

since you fitted ODPRDX4 there is nothing on this board using 3.3V = reg with no load oscillates, harmless

You mean the ODPR series always picks 5V and downsteps internally, even when fed 3.3V, by design?