Mike_ wrote on Today, 09:06:
tehsiggi wrote on Yesterday, 18:12:
The S30C45F dual-diode rectifier is rated for 30A whole device - all of the rails are rated above 30A. That's a red flag already.
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That's at 100°C case temperature, at lower temperatures it should be able to do more.
It is not spec'ed to do more:
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The datasheet also claims:
Peak Repetitive Forward Current
(Rate V R, Square Wave, 20kHz) - 30A
It's a 30A diode. Both diodes individually rated for 15A. It is not adequate for the task at hand. Might be that they have a second on the other side of the heatsink in parallel, but that'd be gambling as well, the one with the lower forward voltage would have to carry more load. And I doubt they did that.
And this is from the MOSPEC datasheet.. that up there is not a genuine mospec part, so I suspect it'll not be better.
DaveDDS wrote on Today, 07:29:But.. I do know that PSUs are more complex than most people think, and making "rash" judgments based on one component rating without more design details is likely to be inaccurate.
This is just an ordinary cheap style ATX power supply. Cheapest capacitors, passive PFC, the mounting screw of the secondary side heatsink nearly pushing into the main transformer. I'd doubt there is any magic sauce in it. And the outputs of the transformer are usually center tapped windings per rail, meaning you need two diodes for rectification. They use a dual schottky like the one here. It's rated for 30A. The sticker claims more than 30A for each rail.
They basically lie, that's it. You can be lucky and the diode survives it's torture, but I wouldn't bet on it. This one looks, by the pictures, to be positioned to belong to the 3.3V rail - it's rated at 35A. It's neighboring dual diode might be for the 5V line and I wouldn't trust it to provide 38A either.
They took a design and slapped a sticker on it. It's a cheap PSU that, if you are planning to drive it to it's limits, should not be considered for a build.
Reminds me of the codegen one I posted here as well. That one btw, did die under high load with >32A on 5V.
kagura1050 wrote on Today, 09:12:The fact that a high-power Schottky Barrier Diode (SBD) is attached to a heat sink strongly suggests that it functions either as a freewheeling diode for an internal DC-DC converter or as a component in a path that carries the bulk of the power for a given voltage rail.
It's just the secondary side rectifier for the 3.3V rail. So it just eats up the whole load of that rail. I completely agree, the rating is completely off.
Kasreyn wrote on Yesterday, 17:08:I opened up a Zasilacz Akyga Basic 700W (AK-B1-700) and took some pictures.
Could you do some more, if possible:
- controller chip on the board
- inner heatsink side next to the transformer, basically the opposite of the (2S)D209L
I looks like for the 5V rail they might have slapped 2 double diodes together, but it's hard to say from that angle.