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First post, by thepirategamerboy12

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Hey guys, been a while since I posted here but I'm so damn frustrated over this bullshit I needed to ask. So I built my current PC in 2023, the specs are that it's a Ryzen 9 5900x AM4 system with a Corsair RM750X modular PSU, RTX 2070 Super GPU, ASUS B550-F Gaming WiFi II motherboard, Blu-Ray drive, 4 SSDs and one hard drive... plus 32gb of G. Skill Ripjaws V 3600 CL16 DDR4 ram.

So I mean, these I'd say are all fairly reputable quality parts, I'm not using any I guess no-name junk especially when it comes to the PSU. Initially when I first built the PC I had a different MSI B550 motherboard and Corsair Vengeance LPX ram. This ram worked but iirc it wouldn't XMP at all for whatever reason at least in that board, so I returned it and went with my current G. Skill kit instead. I think it was about a week iirc after I bought it that both sticks died on me, I noticed weird crashing and archives failing to extract and sure enough... Memtest86 showed bad ram and like I said both of them were bad. I got them replaced and these were seemingly holding up okay, some months later I ended up switching to my current ASUS mobo and all was good for just under 3 years...

Then all of a sudden in July this year my computer started frequently BSODing which was odd because my machine generally has been fairly stable. I go to check and yep... bad ram again except this time only one stick is bad the other still works fine. I disabled XMP/DOCP to be sure, but this made no difference. I contacted G. Skill's RMA department and to be fair, they've been very prompt and willing to fully replace my kit despite the nightmare we live in today.

Unfortunately I have no spare DDR4 ram (may have to remedy that) at all, so to keep my system running I have to ship the one bad stick back, then the second still good one after I get the first replacement to get a complete new kit from then. I do this and get my first new stick back... which goes bad after 2 days iirc... what. I send that back then I get another new stick, I trial it for a week and it seems good so I send back the good old stick and completed my new kit. All was good for just under two months until yesterday where I'm back to where I started with one of the sticks going bad AGAIN and I just emailed G. Skill AGAIN... hate it.

As the title says, is there somehow something up with my system causing ram to just die or does this kit just suck this much? All I do with my ram is enable XMP/DOCP, nothing else. I do undervolt my CPU a bit but I don't see how that would matter. What other brands would you guys recommend for a system like this because quite honestly at this point if only I could get a refund for the current value of this kit, I totally would and then go with someone else.

Reply 1 of 4, by MadMac_5

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The memory controllers on Zen, Zen 2, and Zen 3 (Ryzen 1000/2000, 3000, and 5000 series respectively) are notoriously finicky. I would suggest trying the RAM in XMP mode but set to DDR4-3200 rather than 3600 to see if that's more stable; I know I had a similar issue with Ripjaws DDR4-3200 on a X470 board with a Ryzen 2600X, which I wasn't able to run at DDR4-3200 until I upgraded to a 3700X then later a 5800X. A B550 board should be fine with DDR5-3600, but the memory controller on the CPU may not be super happy at 3600 MT/s. If that doesn't solve your instability issues, then remove the undervolt and let the CPU run at stock voltage just to see if you can get it to operate in a stable state at DDR4-3600. My final configuration I'd try is no undervolt and DDR4-3200.

I hope that this helps!

Reply 2 of 4, by wierd_w

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Also, make sure your bios is not overvolting the ram.

Some makers turn that on by default.

Reply 3 of 4, by thepirategamerboy12

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MadMac_5 wrote on Today, 15:45:

The memory controllers on Zen, Zen 2, and Zen 3 (Ryzen 1000/2000, 3000, and 5000 series respectively) are notoriously finicky. I would suggest trying the RAM in XMP mode but set to DDR4-3200 rather than 3600 to see if that's more stable; I know I had a similar issue with Ripjaws DDR4-3200 on a X470 board with a Ryzen 2600X, which I wasn't able to run at DDR4-3200 until I upgraded to a 3700X then later a 5800X. A B550 board should be fine with DDR5-3600, but the memory controller on the CPU may not be super happy at 3600 MT/s. If that doesn't solve your instability issues, then remove the undervolt and let the CPU run at stock voltage just to see if you can get it to operate in a stable state at DDR4-3600. My final configuration I'd try is no undervolt and DDR4-3200.

I hope that this helps!

Thanks for the reply, I forgot to mention this time I did turn off XMP again just in case and still... errors. I did try one more time just now with my CPU undervolt disabled, no XMP at all, and XMP but set to 3200mhz instead of 3600. Nothing changes.

Reply 4 of 4, by thepirategamerboy12

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wierd_w wrote on Today, 15:50:

Also, make sure your bios is not overvolting the ram.

Some makers turn that on by default.

As far as this goes, that doesn't seem to be the case? The sticks are rated for 1.35v and that's what it sets it to. There is an option in the bios in the ram section called Asus Performance Boost or something like that, but it's disabled and I've never enabled it. Right now I'm running the system with just the one stick and DOCP set, should I lower it to 3200mhz for now to be extra safe?

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