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First post, by keropi

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Hiya!

today I tried Fade to Black, but I see that it really has a low framerate no matter if it runs on VGA or SVGA resolution... I run it on a K6-II/450mhz with an AGP voodoo3 (and the k6 vga optimization prog, mxk6opt.exe)
My guess is that the game has an internal frame rate limitation, is there a way to make it more enjoyable without jerky motion? I have v1.00 that gets installed from the original cd-rom of the game...
thanks for any info! 😊

Reply 1 of 15, by lightmaster

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wich O.S ?

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Reply 2 of 15, by Davros

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Its a dos game

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Reply 3 of 15, by keropi

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I run it under pure DOS 7.1 that comes with win98SE ...

Reply 5 of 15, by lightmaster

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Davros wrote:

Its a dos game

wow, you're a genius! 😒

Reply 6 of 15, by Davros

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Well I dont like to boast

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Reply 7 of 15, by batracio

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I have just installed and tried the game after reading your message. I used the closest machine to yours that i have now, which is a K6-III 400 with ATI Rage 128 Pro and Windows 98 SE. Apparently the game runs fine on me, it seems to be smooth enough and quite playable at 640x400, the only resolution i tried (though the control system is not the best one ever).

What's your configuration? This is mine, just for comparison purposes:

HARDWARE
MOB: Lucky Tech P5MVP3 (VIA MVP3 chipset)
RAM: Kingston 1x DIMM 256 Mb PC133 SDRAM
CPU: AMD K6-III 400 Mhz
VGA: ATI Rage 128 Pro AGP 4x
NIC: Realtek RTL8029AS PCI
SND: Yamaha YMF719-S ISA
HD1: Fujitsu MPD3064AT UDMA66
HD2: Maxtor 90640D4 UDMA33
CDR: Lite-On LTN483L 48x

CONFIG.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
device=C:\DOS\himem.sys
device=C:\DOS\umbpci.sys
devicehigh=C:\DOS\vide-cdd.sys /D:IDECDROM
devicehigh=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\display.sys con=(ega,,1)
Country=034,850,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\country.sys
Shell=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /P /E:512

AUTOEXEC.BAT
lh C:\DOS\mode con codepage prepare=((850) C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\ega.cpi)
lh C:\DOS\mode con codepage select=850
lh C:\DOS\keybsp

DOSSTART.BAT
LH C:\DOS\MXK6OPT
LH C:\DOS\CTMOUSE
LH C:\DOS\SHSUCDX /D:IDECDROM
C:\DOS\SETUPSA /S
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4

By the way, Delphine software's DOS games have always run very badly under Windows 9x (even old DOS version of Another World/Out Of This World crawls when played in a command window). Make sure that you are running the game under pure DOS, either not booting into Windows 98, or restarting in MS-DOS mode before launching the game. Hope this helps.

Reply 8 of 15, by keropi

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@batracio:

thanks batracio! As I stated I do run it under pure DOS, no windows loaded at all... I can play other SVGA games (duke3D 1024x768 gives me 45fps IIRC) and even "demanding" windows98 games just fine.... I doubt that my pc does not have enough power for F2B, from what I can see I must be getting ~20fps... Some people can cope with it, but for some others like me the game is pretty unplayable...
I will try it with a different VGA, maybe it is voodoo related? unlickely but I will test it 😀
I was hopping for someone to come and tell: hey, there is an update for the game that fixes issues, didn't you know? 🤣 alas, I searched on web and found nothing, only some "fast vga patch to make videos look OK"

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Reply 9 of 15, by batracio

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I think the "jerkiness" you feel is due to the game's awkward and clumsy control system, and not to a low frame rate. There are some first generation 3D games, like Quake or Tomb Raider, that feel smooth even running at 10 FPS, thanks to their responsive and intuitive control system. Unfortunately F2B isn't one of those games. You can still find some online reviews, and the control is the most criticised aspect of the game. I'm afraid there's nothing you can do to solve this issue.

Reply 11 of 15, by Harekiet

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Thought there was also a playstation version, you could run that with 3d acceleration in a playstation emulator.

Reply 13 of 15, by ih8registrations

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A candidate for a game that's taxing for DOSBox?

Reply 14 of 15, by Harekiet

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Think the game just has a builtin framerate limit, trying it on some old machines it's fairly jerky on all of them.

Reply 15 of 15, by keropi

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Harekiet wrote:

Think the game just has a builtin framerate limit, trying it on some old machines it's fairly jerky on all of them.

I second that.