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Presario CDS 520

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First post, by rick12373

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This recently came in to my possession. It has the monitor and speakers built in to the same box as as the motherboard. It has a 486 processor in it and I would love to use it as a retro rig as it just looks so cool. But, the monitor has a bad color gun or something. The screen is tinged pinkish purple. Is there a chance that this could be fixable? Or is it something that would cost a lot of money and not be worth it?

This is it (not my video though).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4nyKtujMqo

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 1 of 40, by elianda

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I can't help you much with the monitor, maybe the grid is magnetized, or just one color component cable is somehow disconnected internally?!?

Though I have a Compaq Presario CDS520 setup as retro rig and it runs fine.
Don't delete the installed MS-DOS since it has Compaq specific modifications f.e. using the mode command.

I have the detailed config published here: http://mail.lipsia.de/~enigma/neu/retropcs.html

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Reply 2 of 40, by h-a-l-9000

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Bad soldering joints at the tube socket were a common cause. Is green missing completely?

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Reply 3 of 40, by rick12373

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I slid the motherboard tray out and followed the cable from the monitor to the board. I made sure the plugs were pushed in properly and when I turned it on again the colors was fixed. The problem now is that the screen is too far to the right. Even if I try and use the horizontal control it won't center the screen. I wonder how that could be fixed?

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 4 of 40, by h-a-l-9000

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Sounds like your monitor needs to see a TV technican.

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Reply 5 of 40, by rick12373

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Opened up the case out found some tuning screws for the horizontal and vertical settings. I played with these and now the screen is centered and the right color!

Does anybody know what the on-board sound on this thing actually is? I have been looking for some specs on the CDS 520 but have been finding it difficult to find anything. I think the CPU is a 486 DX2 66. I would like to put by AMD 486 DX4 100 in there if possible. I already upgraded the RAM from 8MB to 64 MB.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 6 of 40, by Old Thrashbarg

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Why not just pull the motherboard out and look at it? That'd tell you exactly what all the specs are.

Reply 7 of 40, by rick12373

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There is nothing written on the MB that looks like the model. It has "Sun Valley" and "177067-001" on it but they didn't help when searching. I did find a PDF (see attached) with a bit of info on it, but it has nothing about the on-board sound or other details.

Edit * Just looked at the link that elianda posted above and it does say the sound is ESS 688. I know nothing about this sound device. I assume it's Soundblaster compatible?

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 8 of 40, by rick12373

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Does anybody know if the ESS 688 is Sound Blaster compatible?

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 9 of 40, by SquallStrife

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Try the ESSCFG utility in this zip, I think it's SB Pro compatible.

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Reply 11 of 40, by rick12373

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Thanks guys. You have been a great help.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 12 of 40, by rick12373

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Sorry, another question. I wanted to try and put in a DX4 100MHz CPU. I took the heat sink of the existing one but I don't seem to be able to remove the CPU. Is it possible that it is soldered in?

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 13 of 40, by Tetrium

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Nah, more likely that the paste has cooked itself stuck. Put it in the freezer or use a heatgun, if it's stuck good (or you're impatient) you can try to pry it apart with a flatbed screwdriver (you can use an old credit card to prevent the CPU from getting scratched if you want to).

And if you have doubts, you can post a pic of it here 😉

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Reply 14 of 40, by rick12373

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Might have to post a pic. It's not the heat sink that is attached to the CPU. It is the CPU that is attached to the socket and won't come out.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 15 of 40, by Markk

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You'd better try to find the system's specs to confirm that it can have a dx4 100. I assume that the dx2/66 is a 5v cpu, as opposed to the dx4 which is a 3.3v cpu. If it's like that, and it can't have any 3.3v cpus, and unless you have a voltage regulator, it might be better to leave it as it is... 😀

Reply 16 of 40, by rick12373

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Yeah, I have decided to leave the CPU as is.

Actually the CPU is a AMD 486SX2-66.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 17 of 40, by swaaye

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in that case a dx2 66 is probably an drop in no change replacement at least. a fpu can be nice to have in a 486.

Reply 18 of 40, by rick12373

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swaaye wrote:

in that case a dx2 66 is probably an drop in no change replacement at least. a fpu can be nice to have in a 486.

Well, as I said earlier. I can't get the CPU out of the socket. Not sure if it's soldered in or something. I would like to be able to get it out though.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 19 of 40, by Old Thrashbarg

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It's doubtful that the CPU is soldered in... more likely it's one of those so-called "low insertion force" sockets, which are rather counterintuitively named since there's nothing low-force about them. It can take quite a bit of prying to get the CPU out of one of those... there were even special 486 extraction tools made for the purpose.