You do relies that this may be to fast to run older 90's games? Also, is that card overclocked of is it a non cartridge cpu?

This is fully an early 2000s rig c. 2001-2002. Nice though.

Well, is it a pentium II cpu non cartridge?

it is not a pentium ii. its a pentium iii tualatin. socket 370 . basically tualatin is a die shrink of coppermine, with more cache. it will run about as fast as a pentium 4 clocked 300mhz faster than it.

jerry424 wrote:

it is not a pentium ii. its a pentium iii tualatin. socket 370 . basically tualatin is a die shrink of coppermine, with more cache. it will run about as fast as a pentium 4 clocked 300mhz faster than it.

Yes, it's a standard 1.26Ghz Tualatin-S running in a standard Tualatin board.
I've been "hunting" a D815EEA2 myself, I have a couple of the D815EEA's (same as D815EEA2 except no Tualatin support) and they have been really good to me 😀

Btw, welcome to Vogons! Your rig is definitely badass, feel free to post some pics! 😁
If you have any questions, feel free to ask, we've got "specialists" off all kinds hanging around here. You ask it, someone will know the answer 😉
Actually, since I registered here I've seen very few questions asked without someone replying and spammers get their hairy asses carried away with tar and feathers by the local Vogons Cannibal Squad 😜

Thanks for the welcome! As for pics, well, currently this rig is sitting in an old Gateway case from a garage sale. I had to pry part of the backplate apart to get access to the NIC. I plan on putting it in an Antec 300 soon, so maybe then.

I know its not "period correct", but thats not what I was going for. I don't plan on doing much DOS gaming with it either. As I said, its a Glide/A3D box.

Not everyone looks for a period correct machine, but many who don't will end up being somewhat period correct in the end. Theres no point in having a Pentium 3 with a GF7600GT or a Conroe using a Virge 😜

Tetrium wrote:

Not everyone looks for a period correct machine, but many who don't will end up being somewhat period correct in the end. Theres no point in having a Pentium 3 with a GF7600GT or a Conroe using a Virge 😜

The problem with being period correct is that you don't always get the most performance out of the parts you've assembled. Lots of video cards, for example, were really hamstrung by the CPU's of the PII-PIII period and run a lot better with a faster CPU behind them than what was available at the time. A card that was CPU bound at the beginning of the SS7/Slot 1 era, may be a demon when installed in a board from the end of that time period or in a Slot A/Socket 370/462 motherboard. Two cards that you might think perform similarly because they put up identical benchmark numbers with a 400mhz PII, might be vastly different with a 1ghz PIII/Athlon, but you'd never get the see the difference because you don't have a powerful enough CPU to allow them to differentiate themselves. Installing parts in motherboards that allow them to run at their best possible speed is more interesting to me than period correctness.

Can we say that most post-DOS era games have no issues running on faster hardware? As long as the software environment (OS and drivers) are compatible?

It's mostly the really old DOS games that need a slow 386 or something like that.

Even most late DOS games run just fine on a pimped P3 and even on current Athlon II machines (PC speaker only though)

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Can we say that most post-DOS era games have no issues running on faster hardware? As long as the software environment (OS and drivers) are compatible?

It's mostly the really old DOS games that need a slow 386 or something like that.

Even most late DOS games run just fine on a pimped P3 and even on current Athlon II machines (PC speaker only though)

Pretty much this. And if you really want to play these really old ones, install DOSBox and play them on there!

'Bout all I can say to OP is: good job. It's a very well chosen machine... it may not be completely 'period correct', but IMO it's about the ideal setup for late Glide and earlier Direct3D stuff. It should work brilliantly for just about any game from ~1996-2000, and even pretty well for games up to around 2002-2003.

sliderider wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

Not everyone looks for a period correct machine, but many who don't will end up being somewhat period correct in the end. Theres no point in having a Pentium 3 with a GF7600GT or a Conroe using a Virge 😜

The problem with being period correct is that you don't always get the most performance out of the parts you've assembled.

Exactly 😉

I always pick my parts with the idea that they somehow have good synergy when it comes to performance, but it also depends on what I happen to have laying around. When building a rig theres al-ways somekind of unforeseen problem popping up! 😜

Personally I don't mind somewhat newer cases (as long as it isn't a l33t gamers case looking like a 20 color christmas tree with a 486 inside, that's kinda ridiculous!) as they often provide better cooling for hardly any extra effort.

jerry424 wrote:

Pentium III-S Tualatin 1.26Ghz Intel D815EEA2 3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 AGP Aureal Vortex 2 Super Quad 512MB Ram Win98SE w/unofficial […]
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Pentium III-S Tualatin 1.26Ghz
Intel D815EEA2
3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 AGP
Aureal Vortex 2 Super Quad
512MB Ram
Win98SE w/unofficial SP and KernelEX

Dunno why everyone says this isn't period correct- looks pretty 2001 spec to me. Mind you, if you were building this new in 2001, you would have recycled some of the parts.

If I was building this in 2001, it would cost too damn much.

sgt76 wrote:

jerry424 wrote:

Pentium III-S Tualatin 1.26Ghz Intel D815EEA2 3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 AGP Aureal Vortex 2 Super Quad 512MB Ram Win98SE w/unofficial […]
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Pentium III-S Tualatin 1.26Ghz
Intel D815EEA2
3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 AGP
Aureal Vortex 2 Super Quad
512MB Ram
Win98SE w/unofficial SP and KernelEX

Dunno why everyone says this isn't period correct- looks pretty 2001 spec to me. Mind you, if you were building this new in 2001, you would have recycled some of the parts.

And that leads to another point. When you're talking "period correct", does that mean only parts made in the year that you are aiming for or are carryover parts allowed? I didn't know anybody back then who didn't reuse parts in 2 or 3 different machines at least on a temporary basis. It was hard to just scrap everything and start fresh every time you needed a new computer. It was just too expensive. You might have gotten a newer motherboard, but reused the CPU,RAM or video card. And where do you draw the line of what is "period correct"? Some parts may not have needed upgrading like modem cards, CD-ROM drives, floppy drives, etc. Is a system with the previous years CD-ROM drive, a floppy drive from 2 years previous and a modem card that was even older not "period correct"?

And where does the operating system fit in terms of "period correctness"? If you're building a "period correct" 2001 machine, wouldn't you be using ME/2K/XP instead of 98SE? How can your computer be "period correct" when the operating system it's running isn't?

sliderider wrote:

sgt76 wrote:

jerry424 wrote:

Pentium III-S Tualatin 1.26Ghz Intel D815EEA2 3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 AGP Aureal Vortex 2 Super Quad 512MB Ram Win98SE w/unofficial […]
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Pentium III-S Tualatin 1.26Ghz
Intel D815EEA2
3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 AGP
Aureal Vortex 2 Super Quad
512MB Ram
Win98SE w/unofficial SP and KernelEX

Dunno why everyone says this isn't period correct- looks pretty 2001 spec to me. Mind you, if you were building this new in 2001, you would have recycled some of the parts.

And that leads to another point. When you're talking "period correct", does that mean only parts made in the year that you are aiming for or are carryover parts allowed? I didn't know anybody back then who didn't reuse parts in 2 or 3 different machines at least on a temporary basis. It was hard to just scrap everything and start fresh every time you needed a new computer. It was just too expensive. You might have gotten a newer motherboard, but reused the CPU,RAM or video card. And where do you draw the line of what is "period correct"? Some parts may not have needed upgrading like modem cards, CD-ROM drives, floppy drives, etc. Is a system with the previous years CD-ROM drive, a floppy drive from 2 years previous and a modem card that was even older not "period correct"?

And where does the operating system fit in terms of "period correctness"? If you're building a "period correct" 2001 machine, wouldn't you be using ME/2K/XP instead of 98SE? How can your computer be "period correct" when the operating system it's running isn't?

I think some just like the challenge of building a PC to it's maximum effectiveness while limiting oneself to only using parts that are "period correct" 😉

Yep, that's a good system!

For me, the spotlight here is on the Voodoo 5500 and the Aureal Vortex.

The Aureal Vortex 1 has even native Win 3.x drivers. And good Dos SB compatibility too, should one wants to play DOs games on modern (PCI-only) motherboards.

If you're building a "period correct" 2001 machine, wouldn't you be using ME/2K/XP instead of 98SE? How can your computer be "period correct" when the operating system it's running isn't?

Some people were running 2K, and of course a few had the early leak of XP (heh, I still remember the DevilsOwn key off the top of my head), but a lot of homebuilt gaming systems would've stuck with 98SE. ME was mostly relegated to the realm of OEM machines.

For the hardware, just as long as it looks like it could plausibly be a system someone back then had does it for me. So, a P3 with a Tualatin on a slotket is fine, a 4200Ti/ 9600 Pro/ 9800 Pro is fine, even XP on it is fine as many people, myself included ran P3s with XP for more of the machines total lifespan than we did Win98. So I would say anything that was sold during the machines useful lifespan as a non-obsolete system would be period correct. Minor peripherals don't count- at least for me.

Just like with classic car restoration, there is no fixed definition- just a look and feel to aim for that becomes somewhat of a standard over time.