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Reply 20 of 28, by Tetrium

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RichB93 wrote:

Have an MX400 kicking about. Nothing special imo, although as I've mentioned in other posts GeForce 256 and newer cards don't mean that much to me. Unless they have some obscure feature 😜

Like a feature connector??
Yesterday I noticed 1 or 2 that actually had one, was quite surprised actually.

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I finally found a review that pits the 256s and 2s against each other.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/full-revi … idia,204-4.html

Those 2MX's seem to be really similar to the GF1.

Btw, you 'could' call the TNT2 a Geforce 0. For me they were the last step before the Geforce broke out. They are somewhat interesting and not really special in any way.

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Reply 21 of 28, by DonutKing

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I seriously thought I had a Geforce 256 somewhere. So I rooted through my box-o-crap and found a few cards but it turns out I only have a Leadtek Winfast S320-II (TNT2) and a Creative Game Blaster GB0010 (GF2 GTS).

Oh well, good way to kill an hour or so I suppose 😜

But yes I think the original GeForce must be somewhat less common than the TNT2 of GF2MX/GTS, all of which I've encountered in other's PCs but I can't recall actually seeing an original Geforce.

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Reply 22 of 28, by swaaye

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Now that I think about it, I recall some availability problems for the 256 throughout Fall 99. Geforce 2 came out in Spring 00. Combine those aspects with high price and it's not surprising that they are less common.

TNT2 was definitely more common.

But playing with my GF256 SDR and TNT2 shows the Geforce is considerably faster without a doubt. 1600x1200x16 is usable on the GF but not so much with the TNT2.

Reply 23 of 28, by Tetrium

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I'm actually somewhat surprised GF1 never appeared in the second hand market, especially after it's rave reviews and it's reputation. I mean, you could say that in one way it was the GeForce 1 that dug 3DFX's grave and placed 3DFX standing right next to it.
GF2 only tipped 3DFX in with a finger 😜

Back when I got my original V550 (TNT) I was very disappointed with it's playability at 768(?) * 1024. The TNT2 is a good improvement over supercrappy...so...not that great. It played AVP2 only when I set everything at semi-low. But could've been the P3-800 though I was running at the time.

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Reply 24 of 28, by sliderider

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Tetrium wrote:

I'm actually somewhat surprised GF1 never appeared in the second hand market, especially after it's rave reviews and it's reputation. I mean, you could say that in one way it was the GeForce 1 that dug 3DFX's grave and placed 3DFX standing right next to it.
GF2 only tipped 3DFX in with a finger 😜

Back when I got my original V550 (TNT) I was very disappointed with it's playability at 768(?) * 1024. The TNT2 is a good improvement over supercrappy...so...not that great. It played AVP2 only when I set everything at semi-low. But could've been the P3-800 though I was running at the time.

Star Wars Empire At War supported the original GeForce and that game is "only" 5 years old. So did a lot of other games before then. A lot of people who had them probably kept using them until they were forced to give them up. I think the original GeForce benefited greatly from it's similarities to the GeForce 2MX and 4MX cards. There were so many MX cards sold that no game developer would dare to drop them from support for a long time or risk losing most of their potential customers. Since the original GF was pretty much completely compatible with the later MX cards they got dragged along for the ride.

Reply 25 of 28, by sgt76

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swaaye wrote:

But playing with my GF256 SDR and TNT2 shows the Geforce is considerably faster without a doubt.

GF256s are the bomb! After using that any card from 1999 feels like it's a generation behind (which is the truth in any case).

Reply 26 of 28, by swaaye

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GF256 is from 1999. 😀

Reply 27 of 28, by sgt76

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swaaye wrote:

GF256 is from 1999. 😀

Yeah I know. My sentence was all screwed up, I meant to say any other card from 99 feels slow compared to it 😊

Reply 28 of 28, by Pippy P. Poopypants

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sliderider wrote:

Star Wars Empire At War supported the original GeForce and that game is "only" 5 years old. So did a lot of other games before then. A lot of people who had them probably kept using them until they were forced to give them up. I think the original GeForce benefited greatly from it's similarities to the GeForce 2MX and 4MX cards. There were so many MX cards sold that no game developer would dare to drop them from support for a long time or risk losing most of their potential customers. Since the original GF was pretty much completely compatible with the later MX cards they got dragged along for the ride.

It forced id to write an NV10 rendering path for Doom 3, that's for sure (despite Carmack bashing the GF4 MX back in the day). HL2 will also run on a GeForce 256, though it more or less looks like the original game. And integration into AMD motherboards further drove up the number of users too.

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GF256s are the bomb! After using that any card from 1999 feels like it's a generation behind (which is the truth in any case).

Jedi Knight II on a GF256 SDR vs. a TNT2 Ultra. The performance difference there is very drastic.

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