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First post, by ct456

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Hi all,

I've 2 tualatin 1.4s and an ATI Radeon 9800 pro laying around along with some SD-RAM and other misc components and am thinking about putting together a retro pc to play games up until 2002 or so...

I've been looking around and I can't seem to find any decent dual Tualatin mobos on the net. I was wondering if you all could help me with some suggestions here.

I'll be sure to post the build process once I've acquired all the parts 😁

Thanks

Reply 1 of 15, by ProfessorProfessorson

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http://www.ebay.com/sch/Computer-Components-/ … =p3286.c0.m1538

You will just have to browse auctions until you see a board you want. I really don't think too many enthusiast hardware sites reviewed the stuff back then, as most focused on single cpu type motherboards to review since that's mainly what gamers used.

Reply 2 of 15, by ct456

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The Intel SAI2 seems pretty attractive although there is no AGP slot.

I would not mind getting a separate PCI card if it means being able to get everything working. Would you recommend me doing that instead or would the performance for games suffer to much.

Reply 3 of 15, by ProfessorProfessorson

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I have no idea what games you even intend to play, what OS you plan to use, so I cant really comment on the pci grafx card side of things until you get a bit more specific.

Reply 4 of 15, by ct456

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I kind of want it to be a 2002 beast.

So stuff like Half-Life, Morrowind, Diablo II, Warcraft 2/3, different types of classic video game emulation.. etc

Planning to run Windows 2000 Pro or XP Pro and possibly with Win 98 SE

Reply 5 of 15, by ProfessorProfessorson

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Win 95, 98, and ME cant use dual cpu, and Morrowind is going to have issues with a Pentium 3 probably as far as performance goes. I can see you getting away with being able to play most other games though from 2002 and prior if you used a good AGP card. Some games were able to use two cpus. As far as Pci goes, a GF 4 MX pci card, or a Pci GF FX 5200 would get you going too, but def not on the same level as a good AGP card would.

Reply 6 of 15, by sgt76

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ct456 wrote:

I kind of want it to be a 2002 beast.

So stuff like Half-Life, Morrowind, Diablo II, Warcraft 2/3, different types of classic video game emulation.. etc

Planning to run Windows 2000 Pro or XP Pro and possibly with Win 98 SE

Some inspiration for you then 😁

http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1480.html

I'm still amazed to look at this even after 4 years.

Reply 7 of 15, by GL1zdA

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I think the Pro266TD is the best dual Tualatin motherboard. You can have DDR and an AGP card with it.

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Reply 8 of 15, by sliderider

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Keep in mind that for dual CPU use you need an OS that supports it, which means Windows NT/2K/XP/Vista/7. You also need games that support it. If your OS or games don't support SMP then you're better off just to build a single CPU system because the second CPU will just sit there idling.

Reply 9 of 15, by ct456

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Thanks for the input so far guys. I kind of want to use both my Tualys since I don't want one just sitting around... SMP or not.. it'd just be nice.

I do plan on running 2k or XP on it anyways. The MSI Pro266TD board looks to be amazing and very convenient in that it can use DDR RAM though I dont expect any performance gains since I doubt the P3 can keep up with DDR RAM.

Anyone know if this board will support my CPUs?

http://www.esaitech.com/commerce/catalog/prod … oduct_id=215865

Reply 10 of 15, by sliderider

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That one uses the VIA Apollo Pro 133A chipset which is the same as on my Abit VP6 and mine only supports up to Coppermine.

Reply 11 of 15, by sgt76

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Just a point to note. I made a thread about SMP enabled games from before 2005, mainly because I had a long outstanding wish at that point to build a P3 duallie and actually had the chance to buy such a system. I think that thread to date has listed a handful of games only. Why before 2005? Well games after that started using multicores but the individual core performance is much more than what a P3 Tually can handle well.

Reply 12 of 15, by sliderider

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sgt76 wrote:

Just a point to note. I made a thread about SMP enabled games from before 2005, mainly because I had a long outstanding wish at that point to build a P3 duallie and actually had the chance to buy such a system. I think that thread to date has listed a handful of games only. Why before 2005? Well games after that started using multicores but the individual core performance is much more than what a P3 Tually can handle well.

That's a good point. A dual Tualatin is not going to perform anywhere near the level of a C2D or A64 x2 so trying to play more modern games that support more cores may not be possible.

Reply 14 of 15, by feipoa

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I have an Intel SAI2 setup that my wife uses daily. Its got two 1.4 GHz-512 KB pieces in it. It is a pretty solid board, and can be had for the reasonable price of $35 these days. The 64-bit/66-MHz PCI-X slots are a nice addition which can be used for high bandwidth SCSI/SATA or Gigabit ethernet cards.

The missing AGP graphics is the main drawback, but it does work fine with a NV 6200 256 or 512 MB. The only other issue with using a graphics card with so much RAM is it limits the amount of system RAM addressable on the system board, which is normally 4 GB (with the onboard graphics), but with the NV 6200 installed, the addressable limit drops to ~2.7 MB, which is not a big deal though.

I had hoped that the odd-ball Matrox Parhelia 256 PCI-x card would have worked in the PCI-X slot, but there seems to be a hardware conflict that neither Intel, nor Matrox want to address.

Before the Intel SAI2, I had another dualie, an ASUS CUV4X-DLS (4X AGP), which wasn't nearly as stable and eventually gave way.

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Reply 15 of 15, by jaqie

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The closest I know to a working pci-x card is the pci 66mhz capable mac voodoo5 5500.