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First post, by filipetolhuizen

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Hi,
I searched everywhere for screenshots or videos of these games (Terminal Velocity and Destruction Derby to be more specific). I could find only one screenshot from TV, but none from DD. Does anyone here owns it? I've always been so curious to see how this game looks 3D accelerated. More screenshots of TV for S3 Virge are also welcome.

Reply 2 of 14, by jaqie

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hm. I have a virge/GX in my p200mmx build. it has a couple of v2 in it, but I could pull them out and try it... not sure how I would capture it as I only have svideo and rca in on my various tv cards, no way to capture a vga signal, and thats all my virge/gx has for output.

Reply 3 of 14, by filipetolhuizen

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jaqie wrote:

hm. I have a virge/GX in my p200mmx build. it has a couple of v2 in it, but I could pull them out and try it... not sure how I would capture it as I only have svideo and rca in on my various tv cards, no way to capture a vga signal, and thats all my virge/gx has for output.

You could use fraps to capture videos but screenshots only will be fine. PrintScreen will do the job. I'm specially curious about Destruction Derby for the S3 Virge, as I've seen these others before. Unfortunately it's not on the s3gallery page.
I know Destruction Derby is a DOS game, but the S3 Virge version ran in native Windows, so the capturing methods above should work.

Reply 4 of 14, by leileilol

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Fraps only captures Direct3D and OpenGL, it doesn't deal with native APIs or DOS.

The best way to capture Virge footage is VGA2USB.

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Reply 5 of 14, by Mau1wurf1977

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jaqie wrote:

hm. I have a virge/GX in my p200mmx build. it has a couple of v2 in it, but I could pull them out and try it... not sure how I would capture it as I only have svideo and rca in on my various tv cards, no way to capture a vga signal, and thats all my virge/gx has for output.

I use a VGA to S-Video converter box and then a S-Video to USB capture card. Both are available for fairly little money on eBay (Buy now).

Reply 6 of 14, by jaqie

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filipetolhuizen wrote:

You could use fraps to capture videos but screenshots only will be fine. PrintScreen will do the job. I'm specially curious about Destruction Derby for the S3 Virge, as I've seen these others before. Unfortunately it's not on the s3gallery page.
I know Destruction Derby is a DOS game, but the S3 Virge version ran in native Windows, so the capturing methods above should work.

No, it won't, no, it won't, and no, it won't. FRAPS cannot work in DOS 6.22, printscreen capturing video is a windows only thing and even then it's hit or miss, and I did not know there was a windows version of DD.

Reply 7 of 14, by jaqie

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Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

I use a VGA to S-Video converter box and then a S-Video to USB capture card. Both are available for fairly little money on eBay (Buy now).

I'll check them out, thanks. I had no idea they were available for cheap used. 😀

Reply 8 of 14, by filipetolhuizen

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leileilol wrote:

Fraps only captures Direct3D and OpenGL, it doesn't deal with native APIs or DOS.

The best way to capture Virge footage is VGA2USB.

Is there actually a native API for S3 Virge under Windows? I think Destruction Derby only checks for Diamond Stealth 2000 3D presence and uses D3D for rendering.

No, it won't, no, it won't, and no, it won't. FRAPS cannot work in DOS 6.22, printscreen capturing video is a windows only thing and even then it's hit or miss, and I did not know there was a windows version of DD.

This Windows version of DD was only for the Diamond Stealth 2000 3D. The non-accel version never made past DOS.

Someone here in the forums said he has this CD.

Reply 9 of 14, by leileilol

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Destruction Derby for S3 is Win32 native, but it predates Direct3D itself (Date is 1996-04-30) - it uses the native s3d api, relies on s3dtkw.dll even.

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Reply 10 of 14, by filipetolhuizen

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leileilol wrote:

Destruction Derby for S3 is Win32 native, but it predates Direct3D itself (Date is 1996-04-30) - it uses the native s3d api, relies on s3dtkw.dll even.

I didn't know that. Thanks for clearing it up. So PrintScreen should still work, right?

Reply 11 of 14, by leileilol

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I would try, but..... my Virge is dead 🙁

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Reply 12 of 14, by Mau1wurf1977

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jaqie wrote:
Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

I use a VGA to S-Video converter box and then a S-Video to USB capture card. Both are available for fairly little money on eBay (Buy now).

I'll check them out, thanks. I had no idea they were available for cheap used. 😀

This is what I use:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PC-Laptop-VGA-TV-A … =item4aad4bc114

I use a USB capture adapter from Compro, but any other model will do just fine.

Reply 13 of 14, by megatron-uk

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leileilol wrote:

Destruction Derby for S3 is Win32 native, but it predates Direct3D itself (Date is 1996-04-30) - it uses the native s3d api, relies on s3dtkw.dll even.

Hmm... I have that exact card .... and that game came with it. I never bothered playing it. Perhaps I should dig it out.

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Reply 14 of 14, by filipetolhuizen

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leileilol wrote:

Destruction Derby for S3 is Win32 native, but it predates Direct3D itself (Date is 1996-04-30) - it uses the native s3d api, relies on s3dtkw.dll even.

Hmm... I have that exact card .... and that game came with it. I never bothered playing it. Perhaps I should dig it out.

Would you take some screenshots for me? I would appreciate it. The game will only work with Diamond drivers, not with Virge generic ones.