NitroX infinity wrote:

shspvr wrote:

The way to tell is look at both side of the board, if there is 12 memory chip on each side of the board then it 12MB board if not then it a 8MB board

A bit more clearly described; 8MiB boards have 4 memorychips on the backside while 12MiB boards have 12 or 0 memorychips on the backside.

Creative Labs never made the v2.0 board with 1MB chip, ok you got me there with 4 memory chips on the backside

silikone wrote:

sliderider wrote:

CT6670 is an 8mb card. I'd pass on it. You should be looking at 12mb cards with Voodoo2.

Are you sure? It's listed as 12MB here.

It's listed as 8mb on Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/3DFX-VOODOO2-ACCELERATO … e/dp/B000MASQ4U

and in this review
http://www.ehow.com/list_7496051_specificatio … abs-ct6670.html

Well there are 8 and 12 MB versions of the CT6670. The difference is the backside of the PCB:
http://www.tdfx.de/pic/creative_voodoo2_12mb_02.JPG
http://www.tdfx.de/pic/creative_voodoo2_8mb_02.JPG

(images not my own, but from www.tdfx.de )

Creative has never been consequent when it came to model-/productnumbers. So don't pay too much attention to it.

NitroX infinity wrote:

Creative has never been consequent when it came to model-/productnumbers. So don't pay too much attention to it.

Yup that so ture with Creative Lab in thoses days.
They where in a big rush to them out door that nobody saw the missprint and packageing error where some people that bougth the Voodoo 2 8MB ver end up with the 12MB ver like my brother did.

I'll jump in on this one as I've had fun building a few V5500 retro boxes in different configurations.
1] BCM GT133KT mobo, AMD Athlon 1100mhz [200fsb], 512mb PC133, SBlive!, Diamond V5500 [ref drivers]
2] Abit VA6 slot-1 mobo, P3-800 [on an Abit 'Slotkit'], 512mb PC133, Turtle Beach Montego [Aureal], V5.

Both builds ran well for my purposes in the target game [European Air War: Res=1152, AA=4]
BCM build: min FPS low 40s in furrball
VA6 build: min FPS high 30s in furball

I converted the BCM build to the VA6 when I ran into issues with Longbow 2 which I was not able to 'tweak' out. The VA6/P3-800 is solid. I'm not a tech wiz and can't comment on benchmarks and relative strengths and weaknesses compared to other builds, but if you are looking to build a V5500 rig with more of a 'retro' orientation rather that the fastest possible Voodoo 'glide rocket', these specs are more than acceptible.

Follow up: both systems running W98se with the Unofficial OSR2 SP and USB2 updates

It has almost been two months since I made this thread, but thanks.
I've since then acquired the 3D Blaster 2 mentioned, which is a 12MB unit.
I haven't been able to find any OEM drivers for this card released after early 1999, so there is no DX7 or OpenGL ICD. Only with the reference driver am I able to get the latest essential updates, but the reference driver is frankly quite limited compared to Creative's. Interestingly, I have seen miniGL drivers from Creative released in late 1999. Were there really no updates to the original driver kit in late 1999 as well?

Have you looked at the drivers available at 3dfxzone.it ? As I recall, they support DirectX 8. There is still no OpenGL ICD, though.

You can use OpenGL if you manually copy 3DFXVGL.DLL to a game's directory and rename it to OPENGL32.DLL. You should also check out WickedGL, which is apparently the best way to make OpenGL go on a 3DFX card as far as certain games go.

The Voodoo 5500 reference driver control panel is more granular than that for the V2, which is fairly rudimentary. In my W95-Dos box I run a Diamond Stealth II Rendition-4mb along with a Voodoo 2-12mb, both on reference drivers. I haven't had to tweak the settings too much since the purpose of multiple retro box builds has been to create hardware environments as close as possible to the prevailing games of the each period, so many potential issues are side-stepped. Well in theory at any rate 🤣...

@Silikone, what mobo/cpu setup did you go with?

So far, only a Pentium 4 1.8GHz computer with a Leadtek FX 5600. It's something my dad had laying around.
I haven't identified the motherboard yet.

The updated AN430TX motherboard bios raises the bar to a P3-1000. So eBay and a $5 solution/gamble we will see. If the Tualatin is cool I will have regained lost performance from backing off the Athlon 1100... Really dig the 3dfx cards.

This doesn't seem right.
Using an OpenGL ICD appears to deliver a higher framerate than miniGL drivers.

Bumping with a question.
Here I can get a Tualatin, but if I have read correctly, old Socket 370 boards do not work with Tualatin Pentiums. How can I tell if a board in question does? Should I just avoid this CPU?

Look up the specs of board on the internet and see if it supports FC-PGA2. That's the Tualatin socket.

Edit; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_370

NitroX infinity wrote:

Look up the specs of board on the internet and see if it supports FC-PGA2. That's the Tualatin socket.

Well, there are other solutions than just looking at the specs. If the motherboard can provide the correct voltage, then buying a Tualatin with the pin mod can work ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tualatin-P-IIIs-1-4 … =item3f04fd9f47 ). I'm using that in my 440BX system.

NitroX infinity wrote:

Look up the specs of board on the internet and see if it supports FC-PGA2.

I'll keep that in mind.

Apparently, P3 CPUs labeled with S do not function on some Tualatin compatible motherboards due to an artificial marketing restriction. Any idea which?

Not sure if this will help but I used a Tualatin converter like one of these and it worked great:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-P3-PIII-SL5LV-1 … =item2a245c3147

silikone wrote:

Apparently, P3 CPUs labeled with S do not function on some Tualatin compatible motherboards due to an artificial marketing restriction. Any idea which?

Usually any Tualatin board will take the "S" (Server) variant, but not all of them probably.
Perhaps this website http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/ will be of help?
Other then that your best bet is to simply try it.
Or get a non-S Tualatin, just to be safe

(typed this in a hurry)