music can be done by lots of non midi sound cards too mostly speaker,fm. i am sure the guy doesn't see the difference
it is expected that forum members will respect VOGONS' desire to avoid having to deal with legal threats on the chance that a company suddenly decides to start selling one of its old games again and finds abandonware discussion about it on here.
Ok but notice that I didn't really ask for support for a game, I asked for dosbox support and it sort of skitted onto the game dependant stuff.
Secondly, the company could want to re-release their old game... if the company still existed. Again, abandonware is called abandonware because the company that released it no longer exists. Of course, the rights to the game could be sold to some other company which happens from time to time but in such case the game is not abandonware. To call a game abandonware you have to be sure that nobody owns the right anymore, therefore if a game is called abandonware it's perfectly safe and legal.
Even if we were talking about a copyrighted games here (which we are not) it's absolutely legal because copyright doesn't forbid you to have a discusion about the game. Also, the link I put here is not a direct download link. You can download it from abandonia but that's not this forum's fault and therefore not this forum's duty to be careful about it. If the game is still copyrighted somehow, it's not our problem, it's abandonia's problem and they would be the ones to take the heat.
And if you bring up the book copyright stuff, Jorpho, please note that book copyright doesn't work the same way game copyright does.
Oh and it is true that abandonware is not a ligitimate legal term but that's just because there's no need for such term. There is either copyrighted or not copyrighted and abandonware is just a term for not copyrighted software made up by the IT community. It's still perfectly legal.
Now that I have that out of my system, I have this to ask:
Why some of the games I run with dosbox have no midi music (although some seem to have it) but they worked perfectly on my DOS machine? And yes, I got them from the very same source.
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music can be done by lots of non midi sound cards too mostly speaker,fm. i am sure the guy doesn't see the difference
when I wrote that I do have music in that game I meant midi music. I thought it was obvious as we were on the subject of midi and that game was presented here as known to be midi enabled.
You seem to be lacking some critical knowledge of DOS sound hardware, but you're at a point that you really need to understand these things. Unfortunately I don't currently have time to dig up some good educational material.
This might help a little bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_card
Blah blah defending abandonware... we can't support it here.
Why some of the games I run with dosbox have no midi music (although some seem to have it) but they worked perfectly on my DOS machine? And yes, I got them from the very same source.
you failed to read my other concern with abandonware and the other stuff I wrote. Abandonware is often misconfigured for Dosbox AND/OR for older dosbox versions. The original games don't seem to have these problems with dosbox. So there is your answet
You seem to be lacking some critical knowledge of DOS sound hardware, but you're at a point that you really need to understand these things. Unfortunately I don't currently have time to dig up some good educational material.
Yes, I do! I stated that I'm a dosbox noob and perhaps I should have stated that I don't know all that much about DOS itself either. The first PC I got was with Windows 98 installed and at the time I had no idea what kind of operating systems were before Windows 95. You can't really blame me for that though. I had no internet connection and I didn't know anyone with significant knowledge about this stuff. It's not like everyone around had a computer those days. It's Poland.
Whereas I may be lacking some knowledge, I'm ok with learning on the job so without the need to educate me about sound hardware, feel free to explain to me why some games have midi on my DOS machine but not in dosbox.
thanks.
READ my post why you most likely have no sound with your abandonware.
Dominus, I have read that and it's useless because you say that's caused by the games being misconfigured.
READ my post in which I wrote that those games worked perfectly on my DOS machine and I got them from the same source.
What synthesizer are you using in your DOS machine? What port is it on?
Your dos machine probably uses another irq
So my post is not useless but you don't know what to do withe the answer.
So check your dos machine for irq and then change it accordingly. For midi perhaps a different base address...
My DOS machine is dead. Well kind of. I don't use it anymore because I spent more time fixing it than actually using it. I built it out of old junk me and my friend found in our basements. The motherboard had to be pushed to the body with a ball because otherwise it wouldn't work and something constantly went loose or broken. After the hard drive got busted I finally put the machine into my closet.
That's why I want to use dosbox instead.
All I remember is that it has Creative SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold.
Skyroads: after running the game press ESC to go to the main menu, select the "Controls" menu option, then select the "Speaker" icon to enable music or the "Zzz thought bubble" icon to disable music. The enable/disable selection should be remembered the next time you start the game. It's AdLib music.
1000 Miglia: make sure to run MIDI3DRV.EXE before running MIGLIA.EXE. It's AdLib music, despite references to MIDI.
Hahah! Oh my God it actually worked!
Well... that would explain it. After all dosbox does fine with midi and it was my overlook that caused all the doubts.
I admit to having screwed up bigtime! ^^
wrote:I play games I find on abandonia and such websites.
You do realize the position on abandonware on VOGONS, don't you?
I'm glad to hear that the OP's issue has been solved.
I'm going to go ahead and lock this thread to avoid further controversy on the abandonware topic.
