I recall reading a post here on Vogons recently that mentioned the last motherboard that could accept a Voodoo 5500. Searched but can't seem to find it again. I think it was Athlon 64 2x based with the required 3.3v AGP 2x slot - or was it a P4? Ring a bell?
No way it was a Pentium 4, since these were all using AGP4x.
Your best bet would be something like a Via KT266. So, the fastest processor you could use would be an Athlon XP 2600+ AFAIK.
Unless you got yourself a PCI one of course, which you can even use on latest machines!
See AGP link in my sig. You need a Universal AGP motherboard, which has 3.3v and 1.5v support. KT333 is probably the top option.
Some KT333 boards use VT8235 and so have native USB2, and some have a northbridge revision with the divider for 166 MHz FSB support. They are essentially early KT400 designs.
kt333 appears to be the right answer but remember to watch out to the versions of kt333 chipsets. while "real" kt333 chipsets support agp2x, later revisions(the "cf" version) as mentioned are actually remarked early kt400 chips and therefore may be incompatible.
Here are a few links on the topic... 😎 :
Matching CPUs with Voodoo cards
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30575
http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17257
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/11/30/3dfx_ … 5_incompatible/
http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=932616
(which suggests that a PCI version causes sound distortions...?)
Yes, the KT333 mobos seem to be the ticket - avoiding the 'wrong' versions of course. I have a KT133 mATX board with ISA slot running a Duron 1100 and goes pretty well and has front USB headers which is nice. It was my Glide box for quite a while until I assembled the current VA6/P-3 Tualatin system which seems to outpace it [certainly the 1400, but still working on that].
But also in the parts bin are an Athlon 64 4000+ and a x2 4800+ so naturally I've started "wondering" if there was a mobo with a 3.3v AGP slot that could handle these...
Years ago I got caught out in the cold with my V5 when I upgraded mobos thinking the AGP slot would work so I got familiar with the AGP compaibility situation myself - and it's still a bit confusing..
Thanks for the hints all.
wrote:No way it was a Pentium 4, since these were all using AGP4x.
Your best bet would be something like a Via KT266. So, the fastest processor you could use would be an Athlon XP 2600+ AFAIK.
Unless you got yourself a PCI one of course, which you can even use on latest machines!
Not according to an online search listed a few sis equipped socket 478 (northwood era) boards that support 3.3v agp. In another search confirmed one of those boards (an asus) is safe to use with a v5 6000.
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wrote:Not according to an online search listed a few sis equipped socket 478 (northwood era) boards that support 3.3v agp. In another search confirmed one of those boards (an asus) is safe to use with a v5 6000.
This actually sounds interesting. Can you provide the details? Which exact asus P4 model is that one? I always thought KT333 was the limit, but I really dislike that chipset so I use KT133A instead for V5.
I may update my V5 rig if that asus board proves decent enough 😀
wrote:This actually sounds interesting. Can you provide the details?
I agree...
wrote:wrote:Not according to an online search listed a few sis equipped socket 478 (northwood era) boards that support 3.3v agp. In another search confirmed one of those boards (an asus) is safe to use with a v5 6000.
This actually sounds interesting. Can you provide the details? Which exact asus P4 model is that one? I always thought KT333 was the limit, but I really dislike that chipset so I use KT133A instead for V5.
I may update my V5 rig if that asus board proves decent enough 😀
Abit Sa7 (SiS645dx) Rev. 1.2 and Asus P4S533-E (SiS645dx) Rev. 1.04
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sis-645dx,435.html
http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPI … 626&whichpage=1
In the long run if you want better then start looking into modding boards for 3.3v support. I am thinking about one mod that I had seen elsewhere that had the agp slot powered straight from off the 3.3v rail on the psu. Just a wire mod from the atx connector along the underside of the board to the slot. Thinking further, disconnect the power vrm that supplies power to the slot via removing the inductor and cutting one or more traces.
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Interesting. The Asus manual indicates X1/x2/x4 AGP modes, full backwards AGP compatiblity ["it will run any AGP card"], but never expressly mentions a 3.3v slot. If it's a genuine Universal AGP it should work.
A recent related thread: Planning a rig with Voodoo graphics
wrote:Interesting. The Asus manual indicates X1/x2/x4 AGP modes, full backwards AGP compatiblity ["it will run any AGP card"], but never expressly mentions a 3.3v slot. If it's a genuine Universal AGP it should work.
A recent related thread: Planning a rig with Voodoo graphics
Indeed but I have a little rule though, if the board was cheap or free test it with any generic 3.3v rage as they are a dime a dozen. At my college in one of the class rooms I noticed that one of the systems they had put together was an old socket 423 build but what got my interest was that it had installed a 3.3v era card. I never got to test that machine and don't know what model board but it had bad caps. Some may indeed may have supported 3.3v cards but not many are known to work if even to exist.
If anyone had the guts to use a v56k on it and said it worked then I have reason to take their word for it. http://descenttaskforce.forumotion.com/t40-3d … -lists-research
If I had one I would be very cautious about trying to run it considering how expensive they are now days.
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I guess the PCI version of the card is not an option?
wrote:In the long run if you want better then start looking into modding boards for 3.3v support. I am thinking about one mod that I had seen elsewhere that had the agp slot powered straight from off the 3.3v rail on the psu. Just a wire mod from the atx connector along the underside of the board to the slot. Thinking further, disconnect the power vrm that supplies power to the slot via removing the inductor and cutting one or more traces.
Actually, seeing the boards (ewwww...they suck) actually makes me happy I have my KT133A up and running. The mods you are talking about could be interesting for testing purposes though. But, for me ... naaaah - too much bother 😅
wrote:I guess the PCI version of the card is not an option?
Its not if you don't have eBay or the money to buy one. 😢
They are so expensive especially the mac version.
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This site has a list of chipsets and which AGP slot they come equipped with.
http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
Guys, I've been wasting my time a bit on the net and I found this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/muscle,339-6.html
Now how about it? Gigabyte GA-6VXDC7 has AGP 3.3V, dual P3 tualatin support (1.4-S), 2 GB max RAM and.... wait for it! ....an ISA slot! If I knew this board existed, I would never have gotten the KT133A rig I have now. The only problem, as it seems, is that those boards are rare as hell even though they were dead-cheap back at the time. Does anyone have any experiences with this board?
No experience but you may find this interesting?
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984. … 6VXDC7&_sacat=0
wrote:wrote:I guess the PCI version of the card is not an option?
Its not if you don't have eBay or the money to buy one. 😢
They are so expensive especially the mac version.
expensive? I got a flashed 5500 dvi mac for 25 bucks last year on mercadolibre 🤣
wrote:No experience but you may find this interesting?
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984. … 6VXDC7&_sacat=0
It would definitely be interesting if the price tag had one less zero. The board had a retail price of 110$ back then. Its a ripoff. 😒
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