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YMF-719 CDROM Breaks HDD

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First post, by TheLazy1

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Here's a weird one for ya...
I installed my YMF-719 into my 486 and because I wanted to try something new, hooked the CDROM into it instead of the secondary IDE channel on-board.

The problem is that running setupsa.exe causes the hdd to fail with "general failure reading drive c".
Setupsa.exe also doesn't exit properly, terminating with a null pointer error.

IDE Base=1E8h
IDE IRQ=11

Could it be because I ran the driver installer under Dosbox and copied it over?
I'm grasping at straws here before I give up and just attach it to the secondary IDE channel.

Reply 1 of 7, by Dominus

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I think I read here in regard to the SB16's cd port that it s better to use the ide one. No recollection of why though 😉

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Reply 2 of 7, by TheLazy1

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Fair enough, I tried removing the CDROM from the YMF-719 and it still dies on a fresh install of the drivers.
The second setupsa.exe runs drive C gets a general failure.

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Reply 3 of 7, by Anonymous Coward

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I had some kind of weird IDE related problem with a few YMF-719s in my VL/EISA SCSI 486 as well. When the card was installed, I wasn't even able to turn on this machine. However, it turned out to be some kind of conflict between my graphics card and the YMF-719. I think it was my ET4000W32Ps that didn't play well with it, however an ARK1000 based card worked just fine.

Later though, I tried another YMF-719 card WITHOUT the IDE connector, and this one worked with my ET4000W32P cards just fine. So I came to the conclusion that the IDE portion of the card was causing some kind of issue.

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Reply 4 of 7, by TheLazy1

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Anonymous Coward wrote:

I had some kind of weird IDE related problem with a few YMF-719s in my VL/EISA SCSI 486 as well. When the card was installed, I wasn't even able to turn on this machine. However, it turned out to be some kind of conflict between my graphics card and the YMF-719. I think it was my ET4000W32Ps that didn't play well with it, however an ARK1000 based card worked just fine.

Later though, I tried another YMF-719 card WITHOUT the IDE connector, and this one worked with my ET4000W32P cards just fine. So I came to the conclusion that the IDE portion of the card was causing some kind of issue.

Hmm... That's not good, this is the only card I have that will drive my XR385 without the hanging note bug.

Current specs:
AMD 5x86 133MHz
The infamous M919 motherboard with no L2
40MB 72pin Memory @ 0WS
1MB S3 805 VLB Video (Temporary, until I find a PCI replacement)
YMF-719
128MB CF in CF->IDE adapter
ISA SMC Ethernet

As far as I can tell I disabled the on-board IDE and nothing is plugged into it yet it still errors out after setupsa.exe loads.
Perhaps it's a driver issue?

The one I grabbed was a win 3.1 installer but I'm positive there was one for pure dos as well.

Reply 5 of 7, by sebaz_ri

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TheLazy1 wrote:
Hmm... That's not good, this is the only card I have that will drive my XR385 without the hanging note bug. […]
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Anonymous Coward wrote:

I had some kind of weird IDE related problem with a few YMF-719s in my VL/EISA SCSI 486 as well. When the card was installed, I wasn't even able to turn on this machine. However, it turned out to be some kind of conflict between my graphics card and the YMF-719. I think it was my ET4000W32Ps that didn't play well with it, however an ARK1000 based card worked just fine.

Later though, I tried another YMF-719 card WITHOUT the IDE connector, and this one worked with my ET4000W32P cards just fine. So I came to the conclusion that the IDE portion of the card was causing some kind of issue.

Hmm... That's not good, this is the only card I have that will drive my XR385 without the hanging note bug.

Current specs:
AMD 5x86 133MHz
The infamous M919 motherboard with no L2
40MB 72pin Memory @ 0WS
1MB S3 805 VLB Video (Temporary, until I find a PCI replacement)
YMF-719
128MB CF in CF->IDE adapter
ISA SMC Ethernet

As far as I can tell I disabled the on-board IDE and nothing is plugged into it yet it still errors out after setupsa.exe loads.
Perhaps it's a driver issue?

The one I grabbed was a win 3.1 installer but I'm positive there was one for pure dos as well.

Try the drivers that i posted in this thread
The "best" sound card for dos
These drivers don't require windows 3.11 to install

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Reply 6 of 7, by Anonymous Coward

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You might just have to use another card in addition to the YMF 719 to drive IDE devices.

Last edited by Anonymous Coward on 2012-09-02, 11:37. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 7 of 7, by TheLazy1

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Anonymous Coward wrote:

You might just have to use a different ISA card (other than the YMF 719) to drive IDE devices.

Oddly enough I had it working...
Then a few hours later it's back to old general failure.

Luckily there is a PCI IDE controller kicking about which I'll try tomorrow if the other drivers don't fix the problem.

sebaz_ri wrote:

Try the drivers that i posted in this thread
The "best" sound card for dos
These drivers don't require windows 3.11 to install

Thanks for this!
I'll try them out 😀

Update:
Those drivers work!
I haven't tried the CDROM part yet, but at least it doesn't break the primary IDE controller.

However, now the colour palette in Doom2 is screwed up!
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