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First post, by emendelson

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EDIT: I've moved the former contents of this post here:

http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/dosboxfortext.html

I hope the devs and moderators will feel free to delete this entire thread, as I requested in a later message.

Last edited by emendelson on 2012-10-04, 20:48. Edited 8 times in total.

Reply 1 of 8, by Qbix

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You know that dosbox has bugs and even has intentional bugs with regarding to accuracy right ?
That is a big reason why we don't want people to use dosbox to run applications. Will you be accountable if a powerplant blows up ? Or when the finances of a company are miscalculated ?

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Reply 2 of 8, by emendelson

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EDIT: Content removed by poster; no longer relevant.

Last edited by emendelson on 2012-10-04, 20:45. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 4 of 8, by emendelson

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Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

What about Virtual machine and MS-DOS or FreeDOS? FreeDOS does even install on a modern machine.

If they work for you, then you certainly don't need anything else. I've compared my actual experience with WordPerfect under other emulators here:

http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/64bitwind … #selectemulator

Reply 5 of 8, by Dominus

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If you prefer me to take it down, I will. I owe a lot to you and the other devs, and the last thing I want to do is make life difficult for the people who made life so much easier for me.

I don't think qbix is asking you to take it down, he can't actually due to the licensing. BUT if you advertise it for apps are you taking responsibility for it? You are not changing anything that makes Dosbox more accurate so it basically still has the limits of original dosbox which proompts the devs to warn against using it for apps.
Advertising it for WordPerfect only is probably fine but be careful if you advertise it for more...

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Reply 6 of 8, by emendelson

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Dominus wrote:

I don't think qbix is asking you to take it down, he can't actually due to the licensing. BUT if you advertise it for apps are you taking responsibility for it? You are not changing anything that makes Dosbox more accurate so it basically still has the limits of original dosbox which proompts the devs to warn against using it for apps.
Advertising it for WordPerfect only is probably fine but be careful if you advertise it for more...

That is completely convincing, and I hadn't thought about that before posting. I've edited my post so that anyone who can really use this is free to ask for it, but I'm not advertising it, and I suppose I'd prefer to have some assurance that it's being used in a situation where it's unlikely to do any damage.

My whole motive in putting this together was to make someone else's work easier in the way that people here made my work easier. DOSBox made it possible for me to do things with WordPerfect that were either difficult or impossible under Windows or pure DOS. I still hope it can make someone else's work easier, but I now see the arguments against advertising it for more general use, which I didn't see until qbix and you posted your messages.

Reply 7 of 8, by Qbix

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*Edited topic title*

It might run wordperfect alright, but don't assume that this is true for all applications.

Isn't it a bit weird to advertise it on OUR forum, where we even have sticky topic stating that dosbox should NOT be used to run non-gaming apps.
DOSBox IS NOT SUITED TO RUN YOUR NON-GAMING DOS APPLICATION

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Reply 8 of 8, by emendelson

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You're right. Please delete the whole thread. I don't think I have the right to delete the first post in the thread myself, or I would have done it already. I'll post a description on my own site, and that will be better for everyone.

What I will do, though, is post some code that adds lines and features to the system menu on a Win32 system. That, I think, could be useful to anyone building their own project.

EDIT: I've edited the first post to ask (1) that the whole thread be removed and to refer anyone who sees the thread before it's deleted that I'll move the information to my WordPerfect site.

EDIT 2: I've removed the content of the first post and have posted it on my site, and will be happy to see the whole thread removed. I do NOT want to cause difficulties for any of the many people here who have been exceptionally generous to me over the years, and I see that my original post had the potential to do exactly that.