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First post, by Stojke

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I am trying to get my (damn) Vectra 5 XU to install DOS and CD ROM and etc.
I managed to install DOS using an other PC onto an Maxtor 850MB IDE drive.

I installed MS DOS 7.10 but i can not find a way to get my SCSI CD ROM to work. This is the controller chip:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54462712/Retro/IMG_4854.JPG

Drivers are no where to be found. But i think I'm not searching properly.
Windows NT 4 and 3.51 detect it perfectly.

Additionally, some one would save me a whole lot of complication if they explained how to have both DOS and NT on one Hard Drive.

Reply 1 of 8, by tayyare

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As far as I now you donT need to have a brand specific SCSI CDROM driver. You should have a generic ASPI CD driver, BUT you should also need to have ASPI manager for your SCSI controller's speciifc brand.

This might help:

http://www.hiren.info/downloads/dos-files

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Diamond Monster 3D 12MB SLI
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120GB IDE Samsung/80GB IDE Seagate/146GB SCSI Compaq/73GB SCSI IBM
Adaptec AHA29160
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MSDOS 6.22+Win 3.11/95 OSR2.1/98SE/ME/2000

Reply 2 of 8, by Stojke

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Was on this site before posting the topic and didnt see this:

AMD PCscsi ASPI Manager (Qlogic Fast!SCSI Basic, Tekram DC-390, Dawi DC2964F)

God im blind! Thank you 😀

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Reply 3 of 8, by tayyare

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No problem at all, glad it helped.. 🤣

GA-6VTXE PIII 1.4+512MB
Geforce4 Ti 4200 64MB
Diamond Monster 3D 12MB SLI
SB AWE64 PNP+32MB
120GB IDE Samsung/80GB IDE Seagate/146GB SCSI Compaq/73GB SCSI IBM
Adaptec AHA29160
3com 3C905B-TX
Gotek+CF Reader
MSDOS 6.22+Win 3.11/95 OSR2.1/98SE/ME/2000

Reply 4 of 8, by Stojke

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7 hours have passed and i still haven't managed to gain access to SCSI CD ROM -___-

The driver loads perfectly, detects HDD and CD ROM. FDISK can see the HDD and read it.
BUT, MSDEX can not load the fuggly CD DRIVE 🙁
Can any one help?

Content of Config.sys:

DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /testmem:off
FILES=30
BUFFERS=20

DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana

rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:1f0,14
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:170,15
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:170,10
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:1e8,12
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:1e8,11
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:168,10
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:168,9

DEVICE=AMSIDA.SYS /V /L
DEVICE=A:\AMSIDA.SYS /D:SCSICD

LASTDRIVE=Z

Content of Autoexec.bat:

@echo off

MSCDEX.EXE /D:banana /L:R
MSCDEX.EXE /D:SCSICD /L:T

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Reply 5 of 8, by Old Thrashbarg

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Do you have an IDE CDROM drive installed as well? If not, remove the "DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana" line.

Also, you shouldn't have two lines for AMSIDA.SYS, condense that down to:

DEVICE=[path]\AMSIDA.SYS /V /L /D:SCSICD

With [path] being wherever the driver is located... preferably on the hard drive rather than a floppy. And actually you can leave off the /L switch, since you're normally not going to have anything that uses more than one LUN.

For your autoexec.bat, if you only have the SCSI CD drive, delete the line "MSCDEX.EXE /D:banana /L:R".

If you do for whatever reason have an IDE CDROM installed, you still shouldn't be calling MSCDEX twice... do this:

MSCDEX.EXE  /D:banana /L:R /D:SCSICD /L:T

If the driver is loading properly, you should see a line of text on startup, something to the effect of "AMD PCSCSI ASPI Manager for DOS" or whatever, and probably some information about attached devices (which is what the /V switch does on AMSIDA.SYS).

Reply 6 of 8, by Stojke

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Its my universal boot floppy i use on every system thats why i left it.
Ok now i have corrected everything as you wrote i should and it sill loads the driver but does not detect my SCSI CD ROM. And i know its functional because NT 4 and 3.5 can use it perfectly and it reads discs.

This is whats on the screen at the moment:

Starting MS-DOS...

AMD PCscsi ASPI Manager for DOS version 3.14
(C)Copyright 1993-1996 by Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
SCSI ID: 3 LUN: 0 TEAC CD-ROM CD-516S
SCSI ID: 5 LUN: 0 QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200S
ASPI Manager Installed

Device driver not found: 'SCSICD'
No valid CDROM device drivers selected
A:\>_

Autoexec:

@echo off

MSCDEX.EXE /D:SCSICD /L:R

config:

DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /testmem:off
FILES=30
BUFFERS=20

DEVICE=A:\AMSIDA.SYS /V /D:SCSICD

LASTDRIVE=Z

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Reply 7 of 8, by Old Thrashbarg

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Ah, OK, I get it now. It seems you're missing a piece: AMSICD.SYS. Try this package, I believe it's the complete set of files (though I'm not positive since I can't extract it on my Vista64 machine).

With the additional file, your config.sys should have something more like:

DEVICE=[path]\AMSIDA.SYS /V /L
DEVICE=[path]\AMSICD.SYS /D:SCSICD

And your autoexec.bat would remain unchanged.

Reply 8 of 8, by Stojke

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Oh i see now, since that file is too big for the boot floppy im gonna place it on the HDD.
To ensure proper booting i should first load the SCSI controller for both HDD and CD than the CD ROM controller, right?

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