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First post, by Robin4

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I have a big problem over here..

Now iam typing this message on my vintage Pentium II 400mhz system..
After a DOA 80GB IDE drive i bought on ebay, i bought a second one but in my own country.. I have installed an installation of windows 98 second edition on it..

My setup is:

Intel pentium II 400mhz slot 1 (i guess its a OEM secc on)
Abit BE6 Intel 440BX chipset Slot 1 with HPT366 highpoint ATA66 controller
3x 128MB Kingston (value brand i guess)= 384MB
Found a good new looking Western Digital 80GB Caviar WD800BB ATA100
Diamond Viper V770 32MB AGP
2X creative voodoo 2 (3d labs blaster) SLI
Creative Soundblaster LIVE! (i guess its a 1024 one) CT4620

CD-ROM LG CRD-8522B 52x
DVD-ROM GDR-8162B (had firmware 0015, have flashed it to 0020)

Main problem:

DVD-ROM drive will be regonized with booting from bios
DVD-ROM drive will be regonized in windows 98 (in my computer) As `CD-ROM` drive and not as DVD-ROM drive.

Under System (in configuration its seen as DVD drive(under CD-ROM)

By opening the door and inserting a disk the led will blink a short time
Doesnt accept the DVDs nor CD-ROM disk..

Both doesnt have scratches and looks clean..

The DVD-ROM drive isnt much used when its sitting in a pentium 700mhz coppermine computer that i had bild for my girlfriend. I had bought it new from the store in the year 2003..

Can some tell my whats wrong with my computer..
The OS is a fresh and clean install from a new sealed windows98se cd-rom

~ At least it can do black and white~

Reply 1 of 6, by Jorpho

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You haven't installed anything, like Nero or Winamp, then? Since it's a 440BX chipset, you might as well try the Intel Application Accelerator, at least.

Have you set the drives to be auto-detected by the BIOS rather than trying to configure them manually? Also, are the master/slave jumpers on the drives set correctly?

Does ISO Buster report anything? Windows 98 lacks UDF support and will often have problems with multisession DVD-R's, but ISO Buster can circumvent that.

Reply 2 of 6, by Robin4

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No its just a clean install of win98SE, so no other DVD aplications or so..
I guess the drive was just bad.. Ive replaced it with a toshiba one.. That one works.
Ill trying to fix the older DVD driver.. But maybe the motor was just bad.. If i put a disk in the led on the front blinked the first seconds, and then nothing happens.. I also tried it to flash it.
Orginal was the firmware 0015, then had flashed it to 0020 and then again to 0033.. But that also didnt fixed the drive..
I saw that there was an other firmware for this drive with cd-rom and DVD.. ill try it later on a faster system with a better supported OS (windows xp) and try if i could fixed it..
Otherwise ill keep the bezel and throw the rest in the trashbin.

~ At least it can do black and white~

Reply 3 of 6, by Filosofia

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Robin4 wrote:

(3d labs blaster) SLI

I think you mean creative labs 3d blaster, because 3d labs had stuff like the permedia chips and such... anyways, any progress regarding the DVD-ROM, I had the same problem with a LG DVD-ROM that only recognised and worked in XP, also LG CD-RW that refused to work in UDMA mode in W98 (just PIO4), while happy to do so in XP... let me know if you solved it 😀

BGWG as in Boogie Woogie.

Reply 4 of 6, by Robin4

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I dont know exactly what the problem is with this drive.. But i know i dont like LG electronics (crap stuff)

~ At least it can do black and white~

Reply 5 of 6, by Jorpho

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Filosofia wrote:

I had the same problem with a LG DVD-ROM that only recognised and worked in XP, also LG CD-RW that refused to work in UDMA mode in W98 (just PIO4), while happy to do so in XP... let me know if you solved it 😀

Windows is somewhat notorious for killing off UDMA forever as soon as you try to read a CD with errors. I can't recall the exact details at the moment.

I was going to say I've had no problems with LG products, but come to think of it I do have one drive that seems to have crapped out.

Reply 6 of 6, by idspispopd

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Jorpho wrote:

Windows is somewhat notorious for killing off UDMA forever as soon as you try to read a CD with errors. I can't recall the exact details at the moment.

Details: http://winhlp.com/node/10
This applies to Windows 2000 and XP, I don't know if 9x is affected, too.
This can happen for hard disks, too, I fixed this at least three times on computer of friends and colleges. Very annoying, boot times of > 15 minutes for XP on a Core 2 Duo machine or similar. It even happens if you have a SATA controller which is set to legacy mode instead of native mode which is quite common with XP.