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First post, by mr_bigmouth_502

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A friend of mine recently gave me his old HP Pavilion a530n, and while it runs well in Win98SE without the nForce drivers installed for the sound and networking, it slows to a complete crawl with these drivers installed. That got me thinking that I should eschew the onboard sound and networking in favor of using cards instead, and I just happened to have a Soundblaster PCI 128 CT4810 lying around.

Is this card any good for Win9x/DOS gaming? I understand that the FM synth on it sucks, but for games old enough to require it I'd rather just run them on DOSbox anyway. 🤣 The only DOS games I'm aiming to run on this rig are probably Carmageddon, Warcraft II, and maybe Duke3D.

Reply 2 of 13, by mr_bigmouth_502

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I just found out that it's actually a Vibra 128. Even so, it's sill ES1371-based so it seems like it should be a good card.

One thing I'm wondering though, where do I find the DOS drivers for this?

Reply 4 of 13, by mr_bigmouth_502

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I've gotten the drivers installed, and they seem to work fine for the most part, but I've noticed that the DOS emulation just plain does not want to work. I've heard this may have something to do with NMI requests not working across the PCI bus on newer motherboards or something like that. The system I installed this in is nForce3-based, so might I be better off using the onboard sound with some AC97 drivers and running the Win9X port of VDMsound?

Also, I've verified that the slowdown issues I faced before were only caused by the drivers for the onboard networking being installed, so I've disabled the onboard NIC and replaced it with some random PCI NIC that I found. 😜

Reply 5 of 13, by RacoonRider

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I often heard that nForce chip sets cause problems in pure DOS. nForce wasn't there when DOS was mainstream, and they didn't have to work on backwards compatibility because people who used nForce were not supposed to run DOS.

Reply 6 of 13, by mr_bigmouth_502

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RacoonRider wrote:

I often heard that nForce chip sets cause problems in pure DOS. nForce wasn't there when DOS was mainstream, and they didn't have to work on backwards compatibility because people who used nForce were not supposed to run DOS.

The odd thing is, I've noticed that Pentium 4 systems around this age often run Win98SE flawlessly, and as far as I remember I was even able to run DOS games with sound inside the Windows environment on one of my old Pentium 4 boxes. I'm guessing that Intel's chipset design philosophy was much more backwards compatibility-minded than those of other chipset makers at the time.

Reply 7 of 13, by dnewhous

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What was the equivalent Turtle Beach card to the Soundblaster PCI 128?

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Reply 8 of 13, by retrofanatic

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dnewhous wrote:

What was the equivalent Turtle Beach card to the Soundblaster PCI 128?

I think some of the vortex cards found in dell systems were close...search "dell vortex sound" on ebay

Reply 9 of 13, by swaaye

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Turtle Beach Montego A3DXStream. Dell used them. That is Vortex 1 which is a much nicer chip than AudioPCI (PCI 128).

Reply 10 of 13, by dnewhous

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Do the PCI 128 or the Montego have waveblaster ports? D'oh. That was a dumb question. Of course they don't.

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Reply 11 of 13, by swaaye

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Montego does have one.

Reply 12 of 13, by dnewhous

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Where can you find drivers for old Turtle Beach hardware?

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Reply 13 of 13, by swaaye

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We have all Vortex drivers up on VOGONSdrivers. You don't need the official Turtle Beach release but I think it is still on their site.

FYI, Vortex 1 is AU8820.