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First post, by Great Hierophant

Posted on 2013-08-26, 14:52

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I have a copy of the oldest CD-ROM conversion of The Manhole. It is a conversion of the floppy version released for DOS. I have tried mounting the directory and the bin/cue sheet using imgmount. The game will load, but only a black screen will appear. When the image is burnt to a CD, the CD works OK (some pops and cracks though) in my 486 with the cache disabled. The CD is a mixed-mode CD containing a data track and 96 audio tracks. The floppy version works fine.

My CD is not the "New and Enhanced Edition" or the CD-ROM Masterpiece Edition", the latter of which was released for Windows only.

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Reply 1 of 6, by Jorpho

Posted on 2013-08-26, 15:27

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What happens on your 486 with cache enabled?

Have you tried changing the CPU type in DOSBox?

If you use a Debug-enabled version, do any unusual messages appear?

Reply 2 of 6, by P4R4D0X

Posted on 2013-08-26, 15:28

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I found the same bug report on Sourceforge but for ScummVM. Is this your ticket? Seems like the version you have came from Magnavox CD-ROM bundle. However I think the disk contains one data track and 95 audio tracks, by looking at the CUE file provided on Sourceforge. So this should be the same version.

Sourceforge ticket: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func … 116&atid=418820

1FILE "The Manhole.bin" BINARY
2
3REM ORIGINAL MEDIA-TYPE: CD
4
5  REM SESSION 01        ; Not supported by other applications (*)
6    TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
7      INDEX 01 00:00:00
8      REM MSF: 00:00:00 = LBA: 0
9    TRACK 02 AUDIO
10      INDEX 01 04:57:25
11      REM MSF: 04:57:25 = LBA: 22300
12    TRACK 03 AUDIO
13      INDEX 01 05:39:60
14      REM MSF: 05:39:60 = LBA: 25485
15    TRACK 04 AUDIO
16      INDEX 01 06:28:40
17      REM MSF: 06:28:40 = LBA: 29140
18    TRACK 05 AUDIO
19      INDEX 01 07:40:10
20      REM MSF: 07:40:10 = LBA: 34510
21    TRACK 06 AUDIO
22      INDEX 01 08:56:20
23      REM MSF: 08:56:20 = LBA: 40220
24    TRACK 07 AUDIO
25      INDEX 01 09:36:60
26      REM MSF: 09:36:60 = LBA: 43260
27    TRACK 08 AUDIO
28      INDEX 01 10:21:00
29      REM MSF: 10:21:00 = LBA: 46575
30    TRACK 09 AUDIO
31      INDEX 01 11:16:70
32      REM MSF: 11:16:70 = LBA: 50770
33    TRACK 10 AUDIO
34      INDEX 01 12:19:00
35      REM MSF: 12:19:00 = LBA: 55425
36    TRACK 11 AUDIO
37      INDEX 01 13:30:00
38      REM MSF: 13:30:00 = LBA: 60750
39    TRACK 12 AUDIO
40      INDEX 01 15:53:20
41      REM MSF: 15:53:20 = LBA: 71495
42    TRACK 13 AUDIO
43      INDEX 01 16:59:50
44      REM MSF: 16:59:50 = LBA: 76475
45    TRACK 14 AUDIO
46      INDEX 01 18:48:30
47      REM MSF: 18:48:30 = LBA: 84630
48    TRACK 15 AUDIO
49      INDEX 01 19:41:30
50      REM MSF: 19:41:30 = LBA: 88605
51    TRACK 16 AUDIO
52      INDEX 01 21:26:00
53      REM MSF: 21:26:00 = LBA: 96450
54    TRACK 17 AUDIO
55      INDEX 01 22:41:60
56      REM MSF: 22:41:60 = LBA: 102135
57    TRACK 18 AUDIO
58      INDEX 01 24:10:20
59      REM MSF: 24:10:20 = LBA: 108770
60    TRACK 19 AUDIO

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61      INDEX 01 25:17:50
62      REM MSF: 25:17:50 = LBA: 113825
63    TRACK 20 AUDIO
64      INDEX 01 26:29:40
65      REM MSF: 26:29:40 = LBA: 119215
66    TRACK 21 AUDIO
67      INDEX 01 27:29:60
68      REM MSF: 27:29:60 = LBA: 123735
69    TRACK 22 AUDIO
70      INDEX 01 28:26:60
71      REM MSF: 28:26:60 = LBA: 128010
72    TRACK 23 AUDIO
73      INDEX 01 29:31:30
74      REM MSF: 29:31:30 = LBA: 132855
75    TRACK 24 AUDIO
76      INDEX 01 30:13:20
77      REM MSF: 30:13:20 = LBA: 135995
78    TRACK 25 AUDIO
79      INDEX 01 30:44:30
80      REM MSF: 30:44:30 = LBA: 138330
81    TRACK 26 AUDIO
82      INDEX 01 31:05:00
83      REM MSF: 31:05:00 = LBA: 139875
84    TRACK 27 AUDIO
85      INDEX 01 31:26:60
86      REM MSF: 31:26:60 = LBA: 141510
87    TRACK 28 AUDIO
88      INDEX 01 31:32:60
89      REM MSF: 31:32:60 = LBA: 141960
90    TRACK 29 AUDIO
91      INDEX 01 31:38:60
92      REM MSF: 31:38:60 = LBA: 142410
93    TRACK 30 AUDIO
94      INDEX 01 31:44:60
95      REM MSF: 31:44:60 = LBA: 142860
96    TRACK 31 AUDIO
97      INDEX 01 31:50:60
98      REM MSF: 31:50:60 = LBA: 143310
99    TRACK 32 AUDIO
100      INDEX 01 31:56:60
101      REM MSF: 31:56:60 = LBA: 143760
102    TRACK 33 AUDIO
103      INDEX 01 32:04:30
104      REM MSF: 32:04:30 = LBA: 144330
105    TRACK 34 AUDIO
106      INDEX 01 32:10:30
107      REM MSF: 32:10:30 = LBA: 144780
108    TRACK 35 AUDIO
109      INDEX 01 32:16:45
110      REM MSF: 32:16:45 = LBA: 145245
111    TRACK 36 AUDIO
112      INDEX 01 32:22:45
113      REM MSF: 32:22:45 = LBA: 145695
114    TRACK 37 AUDIO
115      INDEX 01 32:36:05
116      REM MSF: 32:36:05 = LBA: 146705
117    TRACK 38 AUDIO
118      INDEX 01 32:42:18
119      REM MSF: 32:42:18 = LBA: 147168
120    TRACK 39 AUDIO
121      INDEX 01 32:48:18
122      REM MSF: 32:48:18 = LBA: 147618
123    TRACK 40 AUDIO
124      INDEX 01 32:54:18
125      REM MSF: 32:54:18 = LBA: 148068
126    TRACK 41 AUDIO
127      INDEX 01 33:01:58
128      REM MSF: 33:01:58 = LBA: 148633
129    TRACK 42 AUDIO
130      INDEX 01 33:09:48
131      REM MSF: 33:09:48 = LBA: 149223
132    TRACK 43 AUDIO
133      INDEX 01 33:15:48
134      REM MSF: 33:15:48 = LBA: 149673
135    TRACK 44 AUDIO
136      INDEX 01 33:22:58
137      REM MSF: 33:22:58 = LBA: 150208
138    TRACK 45 AUDIO
139      INDEX 01 33:29:58
140      REM MSF: 33:29:58 = LBA: 150733
141    TRACK 46 AUDIO
142      INDEX 01 33:36:48
143      REM MSF: 33:36:48 = LBA: 151248
144    TRACK 47 AUDIO
145      INDEX 01 33:49:38
146      REM MSF: 33:49:38 = LBA: 152213
147    TRACK 48 AUDIO
148      INDEX 01 33:55:38
149      REM MSF: 33:55:38 = LBA: 152663
150    TRACK 49 AUDIO
151      INDEX 01 34:03:08
152      REM MSF: 34:03:08 = LBA: 153233
153    TRACK 50 AUDIO
154      INDEX 01 34:09:18
155      REM MSF: 34:09:18 = LBA: 153693
156    TRACK 51 AUDIO
157      INDEX 01 34:16:38
158      REM MSF: 34:16:38 = LBA: 154238
159    TRACK 52 AUDIO
160      INDEX 01 34:29:63
161      REM MSF: 34:29:63 = LBA: 155238
162    TRACK 53 AUDIO
163      INDEX 01 34:39:08
164      REM MSF: 34:39:08 = LBA: 155933
165    TRACK 54 AUDIO
166      INDEX 01 34:47:08
167      REM MSF: 34:47:08 = LBA: 156533
168    TRACK 55 AUDIO
169      INDEX 01 34:53:08
170      REM MSF: 34:53:08 = LBA: 156983
171    TRACK 56 AUDIO
172      INDEX 01 34:59:11
173      REM MSF: 34:59:11 = LBA: 157436
174    TRACK 57 AUDIO
175      INDEX 01 35:05:11
176      REM MSF: 35:05:11 = LBA: 157886
177    TRACK 58 AUDIO
178      INDEX 01 35:19:21
179      REM MSF: 35:19:21 = LBA: 158946
180    TRACK 59 AUDIO
181      INDEX 01 35:29:66
182      REM MSF: 35:29:66 = LBA: 159741
183    TRACK 60 AUDIO
184      INDEX 01 35:35:66
185      REM MSF: 35:35:66 = LBA: 160191
186    TRACK 61 AUDIO
187      INDEX 01 35:42:46
188      REM MSF: 35:42:46 = LBA: 160696
189    TRACK 62 AUDIO
190      INDEX 01 35:49:01
191      REM MSF: 35:49:01 = LBA: 161176
192    TRACK 63 AUDIO
193      INDEX 01 35:57:11
194      REM MSF: 35:57:11 = LBA: 161786
195    TRACK 64 AUDIO
196      INDEX 01 36:06:21
197      REM MSF: 36:06:21 = LBA: 162471
198    TRACK 65 AUDIO
199      INDEX 01 36:12:21
200      REM MSF: 36:12:21 = LBA: 162921
201    TRACK 66 AUDIO
202      INDEX 01 36:19:01
203      REM MSF: 36:19:01 = LBA: 163426
204    TRACK 67 AUDIO
205      INDEX 01 36:26:41
206      REM MSF: 36:26:41 = LBA: 163991
207    TRACK 68 AUDIO
208      INDEX 01 36:36:31
209      REM MSF: 36:36:31 = LBA: 164731
210    TRACK 69 AUDIO
211      INDEX 01 36:42:31
212      REM MSF: 36:42:31 = LBA: 165181
213    TRACK 70 AUDIO
214      INDEX 01 36:51:61
215      REM MSF: 36:51:61 = LBA: 165886
216    TRACK 71 AUDIO
217      INDEX 01 37:04:61
218      REM MSF: 37:04:61 = LBA: 166861
219    TRACK 72 AUDIO
220      INDEX 01 37:10:61
221      REM MSF: 37:10:61 = LBA: 167311
222    TRACK 73 AUDIO
223      INDEX 01 37:20:51
224      REM MSF: 37:20:51 = LBA: 168051
225    TRACK 74 AUDIO
226      INDEX 01 37:28:31
227      REM MSF: 37:28:31 = LBA: 168631
228    TRACK 75 AUDIO
229      INDEX 01 37:39:06
230      REM MSF: 37:39:06 = LBA: 169431
231    TRACK 76 AUDIO
232      INDEX 01 37:50:06
233      REM MSF: 37:50:06 = LBA: 170256
234    TRACK 77 AUDIO
235      INDEX 01 37:58:51
236      REM MSF: 37:58:51 = LBA: 170901
237    TRACK 78 AUDIO
238      INDEX 01 38:07:31
239      REM MSF: 38:07:31 = LBA: 171556
240    TRACK 79 AUDIO
241      INDEX 01 38:14:31
242      REM MSF: 38:14:31 = LBA: 172081
243    TRACK 80 AUDIO
244      INDEX 01 38:21:61
245      REM MSF: 38:21:61 = LBA: 172636
246    TRACK 81 AUDIO
247      INDEX 01 38:34:16
248      REM MSF: 38:34:16 = LBA: 173566
249    TRACK 82 AUDIO
250      INDEX 01 38:43:51
251      REM MSF: 38:43:51 = LBA: 174276
252    TRACK 83 AUDIO
253      INDEX 01 38:50:71
254      REM MSF: 38:50:71 = LBA: 174821
255    TRACK 84 AUDIO
256      INDEX 01 38:58:71
257      REM MSF: 38:58:71 = LBA: 175421
258    TRACK 85 AUDIO
259      INDEX 01 39:05:31
260      REM MSF: 39:05:31 = LBA: 175906
261    TRACK 86 AUDIO
262      INDEX 01 39:11:31
263      REM MSF: 39:11:31 = LBA: 176356
264    TRACK 87 AUDIO
265      INDEX 01 39:23:11
266      REM MSF: 39:23:11 = LBA: 177236
267    TRACK 88 AUDIO
268      INDEX 01 39:30:21
269      REM MSF: 39:30:21 = LBA: 177771
270    TRACK 89 AUDIO
271      INDEX 01 39:39:21
272      REM MSF: 39:39:21 = LBA: 178446
273    TRACK 90 AUDIO
274      INDEX 01 39:46:61
275      REM MSF: 39:46:61 = LBA: 179011
276    TRACK 91 AUDIO
277      INDEX 01 39:54:31
278      REM MSF: 39:54:31 = LBA: 179581
279    TRACK 92 AUDIO
280      INDEX 01 40:00:41
281      REM MSF: 40:00:41 = LBA: 180041
282    TRACK 93 AUDIO
283      INDEX 01 40:11:31
284      REM MSF: 40:11:31 = LBA: 180856
285    TRACK 94 AUDIO
286      INDEX 01 40:19:01
287      REM MSF: 40:19:01 = LBA: 181426
288    TRACK 95 AUDIO
289      INDEX 01 40:27:21
290      REM MSF: 40:27:21 = LBA: 182046
291    TRACK 96 AUDIO
292      INDEX 01 40:34:21
293      REM MSF: 40:34:21 = LBA: 182571
294
295REM (*) SESSION directives are unfortunately not properly supported
296REM     'out there'.  IsoBuster however supports them !

1# MD5 checksums generated by MD5summer (http://www.md5summer.org)
2# Generated 29/09/2011 11:00:31 PM
3
4dbb45a6714962baedacc8be47e249911 *MANHOLE.DAT
577f5827d008e6e975f31a4429755ea00 *MH.EXE
6db967dbcdcb2c02ead6746e46639a83a *MUSIC.BLK
7b12e74b74466821133ebd86408c7f1d1 *PICS.BLK

Is your image made with IsoBuster? If yes I found a few topics where IsoBuster sets Track 1 to MODE2. Don't know if this is related, but who knows. Don't have the game so I can't test it. 😢

Mechwarrior 2 and DosBox 0.70
Problem mounting CUE image

Reply 3 of 6, by Great Hierophant

Posted on 2013-08-26, 16:29

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My cue file corresponds to the one posted by P4R4D0X.

The debug console outputs the following, over and over in an infinite loop :

MISC:MSCDEX: INT 2F 1510 BX= 4E3C CX=0003
MISC:MSCDEX: Driver Function 85
MISC:MSCDEX: Status : 0100

I'd try using the real MSCDEX, but I do not have a device driver that will work with DOSBox's emulated CD drive. On my 486 I am using MS-DOS 6.22 with MSCDEX 2.23.

Last edited by Great Hierophant on 2013-08-26, 16:52. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 4 of 6, by Jorpho

Posted on 2013-08-26, 16:39

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I wonder if it's some weird bug in the SDL CD-ROM handling? That would affect both ScummVM and DOSBox, wouldn't it?

I suppose one test would be to edit the CUE file to indicate fewer tracks.

Reply 5 of 6, by ripsaw8080

Posted on 2013-08-26, 23:24

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It appears that the audio status function should report zero start and end times when the device is not playing. It makes sense, and the game wants the behavior in any case. A patch for the issue is attached.

Reply 6 of 6, by Great Hierophant

Posted on 2013-08-27, 02:40

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Thanks, this "game" now works! One of the oldest CD-ROM games too. I was able to apply it successfully to the source and compile an executable that makes the game work. Here is hoping the patch gets added to the official SVN.

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