sliderider wrote:Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:
Does region restriction even apply to audio CD? W
Audio CD may not be region coded, but there may still be distribution contracts within regions. So if Distribution Company A located in your country obtains the distribution rights from Big Recording Company B then Distribution Company C located outside your country cannot distribute that material in your country because they don't have a contract with Big Recording Company B covering your country though they may have a contract to distribute in some other country. It even applies to used material imported from outside because some other distribution company reaped the profit from that CD and you being allowed to buy it from outside your country takes a sale away from the company that is licensed to sell it there.
So in other words, it's like when Electronic Arts obtained an exclusive contract with the NFL to license their imagery and players for Madden. Nobody else could produce a football game using that I.P. because of the exclusivity agreement. Your region or country is a protected territory for whoever holds the distribution rights to the material you are trying to buy and nobody from outside can sell that material to you.
Even if what you said is true, I highly doubt it's the case here. See, another overseas buyer suffers the same problem with mine, and when she/he contacted ebay, the customer service said that it is a technical problem related to android ebay app, despite the overseas buyer got the problem on Windows PC.
The sellers says he hasn't got any restrictions for overseas buyers. It's one of those "new type" listings where additional cost […]
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The sellers says he hasn't got any restrictions for overseas buyers. It's one of those "new type" listings where additional costs are mentioned with one of those "i" icons.
The Ebay helpdesk thinks I have problems with my Iphone because I've mentioned the Ebay android app (gives error code 12310)
And they recommend trying a PC while I've mentioned the error message is from a PC...
Anyone else had this problem?
See? If it's truly because of region restriction for copyrighted materials, ebay would have said so. But ebay didn't say that. Instead, it blames android app despite the problem happened on PC.
So I suspect this is another ebay's disgusting attempt to punish sellers who are not joining their money-raking GSP program. That is, by blocking buyers from certain countries outside the seller's knowledge and consent. The said buyer's problem is exactly the same as mine:
(1) the overseas buyer comes from non-restricted country, and so do I (in my case, the only restricted country is Russian Federation, while my country is Indonesia).
(2) when the said buyer complained, ebay told her/him some fiction about faulty android ebay apps despite the error happened on PC; when I complained the first time I suffered the problem some months ago, ebay told me some fiction about Indonesia banning computer game imports - which is laughable.
Old Thrashbarg wrote:So then, no, you don't actually have any sources... you're just spouting unfounded bullshit as usual.
In most countries, it's perfectly legal to import CDs/DVDs/games/etc. for personal use, regardless of any region coding. (That is, of course, assuming that there aren't import restrictions for other reasons, like censorship laws or whatever.) Here is the relevant section of the law in the US... not gonna bother citing the laws for every country, but they're going to be mostly similar due to all the copyright treaties and such.
The resale of such items is also generally OK. Commercial distribution without permission is a no-no, as one would expect. However, many places have the concept of the first-sale doctrine, which basically assures that an item is wholly yours after purchase, and you can do whatever you like with it... and that includes selling it. In the US, the right of first sale has even been recently upheld to include importing items specifically for resale. The EU courts have also upheld first-sale, but went a step further to include digital media in addition to physical media.
I couldn't have said it better.
Not to mention the CD I want to buy is located in China instead of the US.
So it's either ebay is still strongarming sellers who are not joining their money-raking GSP program, or ebay is sucking up to media companies by restricting legal media sale, or both. Doesn't really matter which, it's equally disgusting anyway.
Never thought this thread would be that long, but now, for something different.....
Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman.