VOGONS


First post, by senrew

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The rain has been pretty weird here lately and a couple of nights ago we had a power spike. I heard a pop come from my computer room and I went and unplugged everything right afterwards. When the rain died down I tried to turn on my DOS and Win98 machines, basically two in my sig, and neither would output a signal to the monitor I have next to them.

I plugged the monitor into a laptop and it came right to life so the monitor is ok. The Win98 machine won't even power on. Nothing happens when I hit the power button. I checked all the cabling, reseating everything, but nothing. The DOS machine will turn on, I can hear all the fans and drives and such but still no signal to the monitor. I swapped the video cards and got the same issue, so I think something may have friend on the board and at least the psu or the motherboard may be shot on the other machine.

So...I looked through my spares, and I can put together a backup machine until I get these two figured out. I was right in the middle of a couple of games so I'm really anxious to get back to them. Thankfully, I keep all my DOS saves on floppies and the ones from windows games that will fit on floppies as well.

ASUS P2B-S
P3-500mhz
128MB RAM
Viper V330 4MB AGP
Diamond Monster 3D II 8MB
Awe64 Gold OR Vortex2 OR SB Live!

Haven't decided which sound card to use yet, but it depends on whether or not the Awe survived being in the dos machine. Kind of wishing I had a voodoo 3 right about now so I wouldn't have to play the "which games do I want to limit myself to today" game when building this thing up.

Halcyon: PC Chips M525, P100, 64MB, Millenium 1, Voodoo1, AWE64, DVD, Win95B

Reply 1 of 6, by Logistics

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Lots of PSU's have an internal fuse, sometimes soldered to the board. Check inside.

Reply 2 of 6, by Old Thrashbarg

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Usually when there's a power spike, it's the MOV that goes first, which then takes the fuse along with it. Check both.

Reply 3 of 6, by TELVM

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That's assuming the PSU has any internal MOV, which many, specially veteran and/or cheap ones, don't.

It's a good idea to use a decent surge protector upstream of any comp.

Let the air flow!

Reply 4 of 6, by senrew

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Ok, now I'm just completely stumped. Not ONE of my 4 retro machines is turning on now. Not even the one I JUST built yesterday as the rescue machine.

I plug them in, I press the power button...nothing. 2 of these machines had nothing changed in them. Nothing. I tried different power outlets, different power cords, nothing seems to be a common point of failure. Can all of my parts have died at one point? Has an angry modern console gamer snuck into my man cave and specifically EMPd just my retro rigs?

This is extremely frustration here.

Halcyon: PC Chips M525, P100, 64MB, Millenium 1, Voodoo1, AWE64, DVD, Win95B

Reply 5 of 6, by jwt27

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Disconnect the PSU completely and see if it powers up on it's own. Check if the fan starts spinning and if the voltage on the power rails is normal. For ATX you can short pin 14 (green wire) to GND (any black wire) to switch it on.

Reply 6 of 6, by senrew

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Seems as if I figured it out. I took a power cable and thr machines and plugged them into an outlet in a completely different room. All 4 turned right on. So I reset the circuit breaker at the panel for my computer room and that seems to have done it. The only actual hardware issue I had was I appear to have boughy a bad pc66 16mb ram stick for my dos time machine. Going back to the known working 32mb stick I had in there previously takes care of that.

I guess I freak out a bit too much when I post issues like this but as frustrating as this hobby can be with all the old hardware, I really enjoy it when I finally figure things out and everything just works as it should.

Halcyon: PC Chips M525, P100, 64MB, Millenium 1, Voodoo1, AWE64, DVD, Win95B