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First post, by maximus

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In the relatively short time I've been building computers, I've had a handful of power supplies die: most by sudden death, one more gradually.

So far, none of these failures has (to my knowledge) damaged any other system components. However, I've heard that a bad PSU can sometimes fry a motherboard and everything on it. With newer systems, this can be a good excuse to upgrade, but with a retro rig full of rare parts, it could be a real catastrophe.

With this in mind, does it make sense to replace aging PSUs before they show any signs of failure? (the idea being that a well-placed $50 could potentially save a lot of hassle and expense later on)

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Reply 1 of 4, by bristlehog

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Once a PSU died in my main PC and fried the HDD... I lost nearly all of my data that day.

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Reply 2 of 4, by swaaye

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If the failure spikes DC voltage it could certainly blow things up.

But it is hard to tell if a PSU is going to die. You need electronics knowledge and the ability to diagnose it. I am certainly very hesitant to trust a PSU from the 90s unless it is properly evaluated.

To make a good PSU purchase choice, look for thorough reviews by experts like JonnyGuru or Anandtech.

Reply 3 of 4, by Old Thrashbarg

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I am certainly very hesitant to trust a PSU from the 90s unless it is properly evaluated.

I'd be far more inclined to trust a random PSU from the '90s than a random 'modern' one. Ones in the '90s didn't tend to have the problems with crap capacitors and over-rated specs like you find so often in newer PSUs... not to say that there weren't crap PSUs back then, but a unit that's survived this long probably isn't one of them.

Reply 4 of 4, by TELVM

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maximus wrote:

... I've heard that a bad PSU can sometimes fry a motherboard and everything on it ...

The typical death of a junk PSU that can't really develop half the advertised power is the switching transistors blowing up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOjJOXIJNt4

This kills the PSU, but as the fireworks happen in the primary (left zone in video), the mobo & CPU usually survive the ordeal.

But if the +5VSB rail goes amok, that's a roasted southbridge and murdered mobo. The Worstecs are particularly infamous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTaqfwf3lEI

Also if a secondary rectifier buys the farm chances are good there would be carnage downstream.

maximus wrote:

With newer systems, this can be a good excuse to upgrade, but with a retro rig full of rare parts, it could be a real catastrophe.

With this in mind, does it make sense to replace aging PSUs before they show any signs of failure? (the idea being that a well-placed $50 could potentially save a lot of hassle and expense later on)

Lots of sense. And you don't need $50, for ~$30 you can get a decent 300~350W PSU with enough juice to power any relic up to Athlon XP/Preshott level.

Alternatively if you are handy you can overhaul any good ole PSU with fresh capacitors, fresh fan/s and other improvements.

Old Thrashbarg wrote:

I'd be far more inclined to trust a random PSU from the '90s than a random 'modern' one. Ones in the '90s didn't tend to have the problems with crap capacitors and over-rated specs like you find so often in newer PSUs... not to say that there weren't crap PSUs back then, but a unit that's survived this long probably isn't one of them.

Problem is capacitor aging. Even top brand jap caps will be tired more or less after 20 years. But that's nothing a recap can't solve however.

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