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Reply 3380 of 57309, by sliderider

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I picked up a Diamond Stealth III S540 PCI and driver CD. Apparently, the AGP version is common as dirt but the PCI version is quite a bit harder to find and more expensive than the AGP. I found one cheap enough that I didn't want to pass it up even though it wasn't particularly high on my want list. It's not a powerful card, it's a Savage 4 Pro, but unlike most of the Savage 4 cards you see that have only 8mb of memory, this particular card has 32mb.

Reply 3382 of 57309, by Stojke

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PCI version.
After examining everything, it was not really worth to go all that way for it. I expected more cool stuff 😁
AWE64 Gold, 4x SB Live, Audigy, Zoran video editing card, some CGA adapters, 4x USB card, ISA ethernets, ISA scsi adapters, s3 virges, bunch of CMI sound cards, and some unknown stuff.

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Reply 3383 of 57309, by vetz

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PCI version.
After examining everything, it was not really worth to go all that way for it. I expected more cool stuff 😁
AWE64 Gold, 4x SB Live, Audigy, Zoran video editing card, some CGA adapters, 4x USB card, ISA ethernets, ISA scsi adapters, s3 virges, bunch of CMI sound cards, and some unknown stuff.

CT6240 or CT6260? Anyway, now you can enter the world of CGL (Creative Graphics Library) and Rendition Verite gaming 😀 See this thread for more info on CGL: Re: Fun with CGL (Creative Graphics Library) on 3D Blaster

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Reply 3384 of 57309, by bjt

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sliderider wrote:

I picked up a Diamond Stealth III S540 PCI

Got one of these too recently and am liking it. Great S3 DOS compatibility, excellent signal quality unlike my S3 ViRGE, and fast enough for pre-99 DX games.

Reply 3385 of 57309, by idspispopd

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sliderider wrote:

I picked up a Diamond Stealth III S540 PCI and driver CD. Apparently, the AGP version is common as dirt but the PCI version is quite a bit harder to find and more expensive than the AGP.

Isn't that true for most chips which where released from 1997/1998 onwards?

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CT6240 or CT6260? Anyway, now you can enter the world of CGL (Creative Graphics Library) and Rendition Verite gaming 😀 See this thread for more info on CGL: Re: Fun with CGL (Creative Graphics Library) on 3D Blaster

Careful, you don't know if that's the complete designation of the card. There are also other PCI 3D Blasters, for example the 3dfx-based ones.

Reply 3386 of 57309, by vetz

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idspispopd wrote:

Careful, you don't know if that's the complete designation of the card. There are also other PCI 3D Blasters, for example the 3dfx-based ones.

AFAIK none of the other 3D Blaster cards have the 3D Blaster logo on the card itself. The 3D Blaster Voodoo2, TNT2, Geforce DDR all look similar to the reference cards/other brands. I doubt he would call a TNT2, Voodoo2 card a 3D Blaster even if the card came from Creative.

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Reply 3387 of 57309, by ratfink

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Recent purchases

Boxed graphics cards with disks:
Savage 3D
couple of Orchid Righteous Voodoo 1s [that clicking is loud!]
couple of PCX2s

Been testing on a PA2013 with a Cyrix cpu. Caannot tell if the PCX2s work or not - they install OK but there's no 3D output. I wonder if the system is just too crappy for them. 🤣

Reply 3388 of 57309, by nforce4max

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Forgot to list it here but a few days ago I scored a new 7800 GTX Go for my big Dell for only $33 and change. Can't wait to see how it plays modern titles just for the 🤣. Installing world of tanks atm as it will play on older machines.

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Reply 3389 of 57309, by Tetrium

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Well, today I got some stuff for free. A couple ATX computer cases (or what's left of them 🤣) all with Pentium 4 motherboards, one tiny s478 Dell which had a leaking cap (already took it apart) and one tiny s478 HP which I also took apart (the PCI slot directly beneath the AGP slot is bend, hope the board still works and will accept standard ATX PSU's). The HP board seems the most interesting as it came with that Intel 865 chipset. The one standard ATX case houses one s478 board which will only work with 400MHz FSB Pentium 4's (it came with a 2GHz Northwood) and has 2 DIMM slots for DDR modules.
The other case which at the very least is missing one side panel houses a s775 board which apparently doesn't support Core CPU's (bummer). It takes either DDR or DDR2 in dual channel. Haven't taken a look at the s775 CPU though but I'll bet it is nothing interesting.

The PSU's weren't interesting whatsoever. Bummer again as I'm short on good P4 PSU's (so for now it's back to Athlon XP and below for me 🤣)

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Reply 3390 of 57309, by Skyscraper

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Tetrium wrote:

The PSU's weren't interesting whatsoever. Bummer again as I'm short on good P4 PSU's (so for now it's back to Athlon XP and below for me 🤣)

You should use the bad and cheap power supplys with the boring hp and dell s478 boards.
If you use a GF4 MX or some other $1 dollar card as Video Card the Northwood 2000 as CPU and 2*256 MB DDR as memory you have fast Windows 98 system that isnt worth anything at all 😀
No big deal if things go *poff* as long as all the hardware is just junk 😁

Last edited by Skyscraper on 2014-02-14, 16:02. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 3391 of 57309, by PcBytes

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Tetrium wrote:

The PSU's weren't interesting whatsoever. Bummer again as I'm short on good P4 PSU's (so for now it's back to Athlon XP and below for me 🤣)

If you need a P4 PSU,a Delux 400W PSU will do the job,providing you maintain it well(doing a cleaning inside it at regular times).And yes,it has the 4 pin 12V P4 plug.

I have one too,but I recycled its original casing (it was way too worn,I had to use fan mounting screws to screw it to the case)and installed its innards in a old 350W Codegen case.It's still running fine,but I had to rewire the fan to a ODD/HDD power plug as the fan wires on the PSU motherboard broke off.Took a while since I had to figure why the fan was running slow:first time I wired it to 5V instead of 12V 🤣

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Reply 3392 of 57309, by Tetrium

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Skyscraper wrote:
You should use the bad and cheap power supplys with the boring hp and dell s478 boards. If you use a GF4 MX or some other $1 dol […]
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Tetrium wrote:

The PSU's weren't interesting whatsoever. Bummer again as I'm short on good P4 PSU's (so for now it's back to Athlon XP and below for me 🤣)

You should use the bad and cheap power supplys with the boring hp and dell s478 boards.
If you use a GF4 MX or some other $1 dollar card as Video Card the Northwood 2000 as CPU and 2*256 MB DDR as memory you have fast Windows 98 system that isnt worth anything at all 😀
No big deal if things go *poff* as long as all the hardware is just junk 😁

I already tore the Dell and HP for parts. The Dell mobo is trashed as it has a couple leaking caps and probably won't even fit in a standard ATX case. The HP board seems fine except for that bend PCI slot and I'll presume it still functions.

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Tetrium wrote:

The PSU's weren't interesting whatsoever. Bummer again as I'm short on good P4 PSU's (so for now it's back to Athlon XP and below for me 🤣)

If you need a P4 PSU,a Delux 400W PSU will do the job,providing you maintain it well(doing a cleaning inside it at regular times).And yes,it has the 4 pin 12V P4 plug.

I have one too,but I recycled its original casing (it was way too worn,I had to use fan mounting screws to screw it to the case)and installed its innards in a old 350W Codegen case.It's still running fine,but I had to rewire the fan to a ODD/HDD power plug as the fan wires on the PSU motherboard broke off.Took a while since I had to figure why the fan was running slow:first time I wired it to 5V instead of 12V 🤣

And the reason I don't want to use crummy PSU's is because I don't want a fire in my house or explosions 🤣! And besides the crummy PSU will give you more instability and I prefer my systems be unstable by the means of software instead of hardware because that's something that's more easily fixed 😜

I just need to find a good deal for a small batch of 350W PSU's just like I did the last time some years ago 😀

Crummy PSU's are scary, 🤣!!

Edit: And now that you mention the MX GPU's, I think those are actually quite fantastic 😁
They are very good conpared to older high end cards and eat very little power. And they are cheap too! 😁 I kinda see them like a successor to the S3 Virge for more powerful systems 😜

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Reply 3393 of 57309, by PcBytes

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Crummy?
This is one of the Delux PSUs that I think were built to last.It lasted 1 year so far,and still works.Otherwise,it would have gone "BANG!" in a few months.Not unstable also,I had all voltages in their ranges!:D
Same for my 450W PSU,it's been running everyday since 2008.Just the motherboard had to be replaced but that's because I flashed a bad BIOS image and it wouldn't boot.
Also,from my point of view I think that PSUs die either because of fan stopping to work or a huge load of dust inside.

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Reply 3394 of 57309, by PeterLI

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Reply 3395 of 57309, by DonutKing

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How bad? maybe they can be repaired.

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Reply 3397 of 57309, by PeterLI

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Reply 3398 of 57309, by Tetrium

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PeterLI wrote:

Here are the pictures. I also put the jumper on P which means I/O 330. That was the same with the other 1 I bought. That 1 works. Without the P jumped it does not work.

It may or may not be the scratches. Maybe the ROM is blown as well. Who knows.

The scratch I saw doesn't look that serious to me though. It looks more as if the card was in a bin with parts and it might have been damaged by ESD or something. At any rate, it looks like it was improperly handled at some point in it's existence.

...but I could be wrong of course.

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