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First post, by zee guest ^_^

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Hello there, first, thanking you in advance for taking off your time to answer my please (also, promised, you wont get two tons of question marks when i ask questions, as i've seen on some guest posts 😄)

I have been unearthing my old Fantasy General and Master of Magic cd, and felt the urge to toy with 'em again. Basically, i'm on a 2.1ghz athlon on an ASUSA7N8X (albeit, for some reason, i've just seen it be detected as a 1.33ghz processor.... go figure, that magic box i call a computer cracks me up đŸ˜” ), with 512 dd-ram, a radeon 9700 with 128mb memory, using a Sound Blaster platinum 5.1 (with EAX, shiny!), and i basically am on the dreaded Windows XP.

All in all, i've been finding many "possible solutions" on the forums of Home of the Underdog, a number of them including the use of VDMSound (i use the 2.0.4, with the update package). I tried every single config the guys suggested, be it including or not the said VDMS program. Nothing of this worked, i either got the dos window closing directly or had each a time the "requiring 2700k of expanded memory" (i do not recall the exact terms, ah, well).

I also tried using Dosbox 0.60, but for some reason i cannot get the bugger to work on my computer (after reading the readme and, after realizing there was one, the french readme, but to no avail).

I know it's basically asking to do all the job for me, but could you please tell me how to configure VDMSound (i believe that since it worked for some it's gotta work for me 😀 ) to best match the requirements of Master of Magic (and what soundcard would be best to put during the installation?), or if anyone knows for Fantasy General (with that game, i basically get thrown back to windows all the time, whatever the configs i try.)?

Thanking you a lot in advance, and hoping i am not too much of a pain :p

~your devoted low-tech guest

Reply 1 of 12, by Mistoffeles

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If you go to the program Properties, you can specify however much EMS memory you want, I always recommend 4MB (4096) with DOS games. Master of Magic works fine under XP Pro, except that you have to use the INSTALL program to configure it to work without sound.

I have tried using VDMSound to get audio, but it uses too much DOS memory. MoM wants 586K of DOS memory, and VDMSound just does not leave enough free to run the game. My solution, as with many old games, is to run WinAmp in the background until such a time as I can get VDMSound or some other audio software to enable the original game sound.

DD

Reply 2 of 12, by vladr

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VDMSound takes 0.00 DOS memory. You can disable EMS to release 64kB of additional base memory.
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Reply 3 of 12, by Mistoffeles

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It has to be doing something, as I can run MoM fine without VDMSound, but when I try to run it with VDMSound, I get an error that "Master of Magic needs 584K of memory to run".

DD
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Reply 4 of 12, by vladr

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Yes, it does do something. Such as enable EMS memory, which many (other) games need. So disable EMS memory for this particular game and try again.

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Reply 5 of 12, by Mistoffeles

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If I turn off EMS, I get the message "you must have 2700K of expanded memory" error, like the guy who started this thread.

Don't take me for an idiot, I'm only stupid.

😀

DD
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Reply 6 of 12, by Mistoffeles

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MoM now working, after a complete reconfiguration using the MoM INSTALL.COM and creating a new VDMSound shortcut.

Like any emulator, it slows down the game significantly, but unfortunately, the promised audio is * not * present.

So, I have gone from a very fast old DOS game running fine on plain XP Pro with no sound, to a very slow old DOS game running ok on XP Pro with VDMSound, with no sound.

Ain't life grand?

😀

DD
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Reply 7 of 12, by Guest

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master of magic runs fast if you use vdmsound and turn off the "Enable DPMI support (DOSX)" in the advanced section.

Right now I am trying to get the sounds to play faster in battle though.
At the moment they are cueing-up and slowing combat.

Reply 8 of 12, by Mistoffeles

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DPMI is off, no sound at all, still.

DD
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Reply 9 of 12, by Guest

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My sound settings are the default (I think)
Sound Blaster 16. 220 / 7 / 1

I loaded install.exe with VDMsound to make sure it detected or whatever. Everything went fine after I disabled that DPMI thingo.

Reply 10 of 12, by Deastin

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I find that if you combine DosBox and VDMsound you get great results 😁

I've been running MoM under the combination and it works wonders. Start DosBox first, then run the VDMsound shortcut. It will run with the speed of DosBox, and the sound of VDM. At least it did for me, on my win2k machine.

I can e-mail you my vdmsound shortcut too if you'd like.

Reply 11 of 12, by Deastin

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Oh, one small thing is that the battle sound effects que up horribly slow....this may be something that can't be fixed though.

Reply 12 of 12, by Accident Prone

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Thats not small it's horrible.

I've tried heaps of things to get them to play smoothly.

If you come across anything, please post it here.