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First post, by soulburn74

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So I've been playing around with a bunch of old Dos games lately via dosbox. I picked up an SC-55 and an Um-One (midi to USB interface). I've gotten many games to work with it just fine (sierra games, xwing, wc1/2 (although the mt32 emulation for wc1/2 of the sc55 isn't quite right......an mt32 is on the way for these issues).......but as I digress.....

Now I'm trying to get Wing Commander III (the gog games version) to work with my sc-55.

I've done the trick to force sc55 instead of onboard gm emulation (in dosbox, entering "mixer /listmidi" to find out what channel my sc-55 is on: 2, editing the game's conf file with this information).

I've run the setup app to set the music to rap10/scc-1 (also tried general midi and mt32), it plays back music, but not via the sc-55 (Its easy to tell as the um one lights up with activity as does the sc-55 when IN USE)
But for the life of me the game won't use my sc-55 instead it's using the dosbox's emulated GM.

I'm guessing this might be a small subset of users who are in this same situation, if if anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them.

Reply 1 of 7, by bloodbat

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DosBox doesn't emulate GM, it passes the MIDI commands to whatever device is set in midiconf (in your case, probably ms softsynth). Recheck your mixer /listmidi device numbers, see if anything has changed, also, unless you're running with your own DosBox, the GOG (and the Origin one) version include their own DosBox, so you have to edit those .conf files.

Reply 2 of 7, by soulburn74

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I don't have my 'own' dox box installed. working with the dosbox and the conf files from the installs (gog's wc1/2 are using one copy of dosbox and conf files, gog's wc3 are using another dos box and set of conf files in a separate directory). Maybe Munt is mucking things up (MS's is listed as 0, munt is 1, and my um-one with attached sc55 is 2, and my conf file for all 3 game launchers has 2 set in the:
mpu401=intelligent
device=default
config=2

portions of the conf file for dosbox.
I'll try uninstalling munt and reconfiguring the conf file and see if I can get it to kick in on the sc-55.

Reply 3 of 7, by soulburn74

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No love.
removed MUNT.
Um-ONE became "1"

edited .conf of wc3 accordingly.
doesn't fire up the um-one/sc-55.

Doing the same in all my other dos box games (and editing their associated .conf files), the sc55 works just fine.

In the WC3 setup app, it asks for the port number for mpu401 setting (defaults to 330), maybe the um-one USB connector doesn't work on 330? Or just a game bug for wc3 (as all my other games work fine)......

Reply 4 of 7, by soulburn74

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not the 330 issue, I've installed a few more games in dosbox (day of the tentacle, Ravenloft strahd's possession and stone prophet) which defaulted to port 330, and worked fine........ 🙁

Reply 5 of 7, by PhilsComputerLab

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Does the UM-One work in other games? You mentioned Wing Commander 1 and 2?

The MIDI port is usually 330 and shouldn't be changed.

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Reply 6 of 7, by ripsaw8080

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soulburn74 wrote:

mpu401=intelligent
device=default
config=2

These appear to be the settings of an older version of DOSBox, because in 0.74 you should have:

mpu401=intelligent
mididevice=default
midiconfig=2

If you're not using 0.74 then you really ought to.

Reply 7 of 7, by soulburn74

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Thank you RipSaw8080! That did it!
Strange, GOG must have been using an old version of dosbox for their template, as the imbedded version of dosbox was 0.74, but the conf file had config, instead of midiconfig. and that did the trick! Thanks!!!!!!