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First post, by mrharrismrharris

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RAMA dos 3 CD set in hand
machine is intel core i5 iMac running parallels for windows 7
Maybe asking the impossible
installed and started dosbox
mounted cdrom drive and destination directories on C:
inserted disc 1 in cdrom drive
ran install at the D: prompt in dosbox
desitination directory ok
sound blaster chosen
install completes ok.
issued ramados command
game starts and runs but NO SOUND: MOUSE CONTROL VERY ERRATIC: SMALL WINDOW WHICH CANNOT BE RESIZED.
looking at the sound device in Windows 7 shows parallels audio controller which was not a choice in the install program although when dosbox started there were some sound blaster settings mentioned.
the mouse problem is obviously the wrong driver but I don't know how to fix that
enter full screen option in view menu of dosbox is grayed out

Maybe I should just try and run it on my old windows 7 PC.

Any help appreciated.....Michael.

Reply 2 of 22, by mrharrismrharris

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update
I've solved the sound problem (it had to be unmuted - red face)

still got the mouse and window problems though
BTW the video speed and everything else looks fine.

Reply 4 of 22, by mrharrismrharris

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I am using the win build of DOSBox via Parallels.

Just tried using the installer you suggested and it all seems to install fine both full and minimum but won't run either way.
A DOS terminal comes up mentioning that C is mounted but there is no -ioctl

Reply 5 of 22, by mrharrismrharris

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also there is a diagnostic tool installed by the installer which inspects the configuration and reports in notepad - it all seems fine.

Reply 6 of 22, by Dominus

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Don't use Dosbox through a virtual machine, except to test things out.
Use the OS X version of Dosbox. Use the F4 key to switch fullscreen/windowed mode.

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Reply 7 of 22, by mrharrismrharris

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Thanks for the suggestion.

I tried to do that but after mounting the cdrom drive I could not follow the RAMA installation instructions as it would not let me cd\sierra. I tried to run various other *.exe files or cd into other directories but was unable to get anything to work.

My beet success so far as been per my original post where the game runs in a small window properly except for the problem with the mouse.

I much appreciate everyone's time in trying to help. Next week I will have access to my PC running windows 7 and I will try and get it working on there.

Let's close this thread for now and if I have any further issues I will open a new one.

Reply 9 of 22, by collector

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If you are trying to setup the folder from my installer you will find two ISOs in the folder. You need to mount those as the CD. There will also be a dosbox.conf in the folder that you can use as a guide for mounting on your Mac. You just need to adapt it for use in the Mac directly.

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Reply 10 of 22, by mrharrismrharris

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Dominique: the cdrom was mounted since I was able to run e.g dir and other dos commands. In fact inspection of the cdrom did not reveal the directory mentioned in the RAMA setup instructions but I was inspecting it in windows which does not always reveal all directories.

Collector: I have a three disc set and thus after full install there were three *.iso files. I thought the installer had already taken care of this. So I need to edit the dosbox.conf file?

Reply 11 of 22, by collector

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Running it on the Mac you can delete the Win EXEs the installer added; Conf.exe, DiagnosticTool.exe and RAMA.exe. Then you need to mount those ISOs as your "D:" drive in the conf for your Mac build. The autoexec should be something like:

[autoexec]
cls
@ECHO OFF
mount c .
imgmount d CD1.iso CD2.iso CD3.iso -fs iso
c:
cd \
cls
call RAMAMSG.BAT
exit

I am not sure what output would be best for Mac. Opengl? Dominus will be more familiar with whatever modifications are needed. Using defaults for all of the other settings should be OK. Then all you need to do is to start DOSBox using the new conf file.

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Reply 12 of 22, by mrharrismrharris

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First thanks very much for all your help. The world is a better place for people like you.

Second by ignoring parallels and Windows 7 and just installing DOSBox 0SX version and following the various instructions everything works fine.

Thirdly I am trying to edit the DOSBox 0.74 Preferences file to insert the various mounts etc. Library directory does not appear in my home directory on my desktop. In a terminal I can see it, cd into it and the Preferences directory and then list the preferences file. However the preferences file name has spaces in it and I forget how to replace the spaces in the file name when opening to edit.

Reply 13 of 22, by Dominus

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in Finder hold down option/alt key while clicking on the Go menu item and you should see the library folder. It's hidden by default since OS X 10.7.
on handling spaces in filenames: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2 … 010305211647646

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Reply 16 of 22, by mrharrismrharris

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Everything is cool and working great. Thank you so much.

If it is of interest I could generate a file detailing the particular steps to get RAMA to run on my iMac - later - I am too busy playing the game right now.

Reply 18 of 22, by gamrrant

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Looks like you are up and running now but just in case you or anyone else working on playing this game are interested, here are my RAMA dosbox settings that seem to be working (which I probably set up due to stuff I read here on Vogons & elsewhere):

This is on my windows 7 machine, not a mac, (also I haven't played thru RAMA under dosbox, but the beginning of the game runs & works ok):

The dosbox.conf and the bat file are under /RAMA/SIERRA

The game is on two disks, alt+F4 on a windows pc switches disks if you have made disk images for the hard drive.
I am using LaunchBox (for windows) as a dosbox front-end which makes that friendly to set up.

My dosbox.conf settings for RAMA are listed here - only the ones I changed from default.
(I'm running vanilla dosbox 0.74, and I put a copy of dosbox's dosbox.conf file in each game's game folder so I can tweak 'em custom as needed):

[sdl]

fullscreen=true
fulldouble=false
fullresolution=desktop
windowresolution=original
output=overlay

[render]

frameskip=0
aspect=true
scaler=normal2x

[mixer]
blocksize=8192

The bat file:
@echo off
cd C:\sierra\ramados
@if exist vesadrv.bat call vesadrv.bat
C:\sierra\ramados\sier C:\sierra\ramados\resource.cfg
cd ..

Last edited by gamrrant on 2015-12-05, 01:12. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 19 of 22, by gamrrant

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PS probably needs the larger mixer blocksize becuz of all the FMV the game has! (maybe?)
EDIT: I was wrong... what fixed it was Vigil's suggestion, set frameskip=1 instead of 0, smoothed out the choppiness wonderfully.
I also changed fullresolution and windowresolution to actual dpi screensize, and changed output to ddraw. But the actual fix for the choppy video character bits iappears to be the frameskip setting.

Last edited by gamrrant on 2015-03-07, 02:31. Edited 2 times in total.