badmojo wrote:

smeezekitty wrote:

If you can't find it for purchase, what is wrong with going through abandonware sites?

Oh boy, now you've done it.

Well here is the thing:

If the publisher/developer isn't selling the game anymore, you aren't hurting them by downloading it.

If it was game that was still sold by the original publisher/developer, than it is a different story entirely.

So if you aren't hurting the game creator, then what is wrong with downloading it as abandonware?

note to mods: If this is not okay to say -- then delete it and let me know and I won't bring it up again.

if there were only a website where one could buy things secondhand...

leileilol wrote:

if there were only a website where one could buy things secondhand...

I buy a lot of my retro hardware on ebay because of the lack of a better choice (except what I get at the thrift store and recyclers)
but otherwise I avoid eBay as much as possible because I despise how they are run

FYI, I can find Jill Saves the Prince on ebay from at least two sellers.

not so sure about jill gets high on mushrooms or whatever episode 2 was called

philscomputerlab wrote:

So there is this new TV Show http://www.syfy.com/ascension

Foxtel seems to have the rights on SyFy content. I checked the schedule of Foxtel Play and the show is nowhere to be found.

Word of warning: Don't expect an ending because there isn't one. Absolutely nothing is resolved at the end of the last part. In fact they throw even more questions at the viewer and then just go to the credits. It's like they wrote a four-part miniseries and then decided not to film the last quarter of it.

Supposedly this was done in the hopes of turning it into a series, but there's no word if that will ever happen. Even if they do make a series out of it, each season will end on an obligatory cliffhanger until the inevitable cancellation, leaving all the plot lines unfinished. 😠

smeezekitty wrote:

SpooferJahk wrote:

JayCeeBee64 wrote:

I still have hope that someone out there will be able to offer Epic's classic games catalogue once again. There used to be a site called Epic Classics that did this, but they suddenly vanished between late 2012 and early 2013; it used to look like this, but now only a blank page is there. And Epic themselves haven't even tried to do this so far (their Games Store is really a joke 🙁 ).

Makes me sad because I would love to get my hands on Jill of the Jungle without downloading it through abandonware rings, really do enjoy that game and would pay a good price for it.

If you can't find it for purchase, what is wrong with going through abandonware sites?

Because it's software piracy, that's why.

smeezekitty wrote:

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Well here is the thing:

If the publisher/developer isn't selling the game anymore, you aren't hurting them by downloading it.

If it was game that was still sold by the original publisher/developer, than it is a different story entirely.

So if you aren't hurting the game creator, then what is wrong with downloading it as abandonware?

The courts do not recognize the concept of abandonware. It has no legal standing. If there is still a copyright in force, the courts will enforce it. Copyrights last for 70 years or more depending on where you live. Count back 70 years from 2014 and tell me how many computer software programs are out of copyright protection. The answer is ZERO unless the last rights holder relinquished their rights and placed the work into the public domain. In short, if you're downloading abandonware, you're breaking the law.

Whether the holder of the copyright is still actively distributing the software in question is completely irrelevant.

In short, if you're downloading abandonware, you're breaking the law.

I am aware of it. But basically I don't care.
The law of 70 years makes no sense for fast moving digital media.

If the game is still sold then I will gladly buy it. Otherwise who gives a ****

Law or not

This topic has drifted far away now.
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