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First post, by noshutdown

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i ordered a 486 board from a seller, its the same board as this page, except that it has some -15ns cache chips:

http://www.t-cpu.com/motherboards/486-socket- … i5400-1679.html

it seems to meet my requirements well:
-pci slots
-coin cell
-up to 50fsb support
-with cache chips
-board layout seems ok

the only question is the unknown ald 93c428/93c439 chipset. the company is surprisingly still in existance, making embedded systems, and mentioned about making mainboards in their history.
can anyone find any more detailed info about this board, like a manual, or identify if its a remarked chipset or their own design?

Reply 2 of 7, by noshutdown

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can anyone else find any info?

Reply 4 of 7, by Anonymous Coward

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I've always been very interested in these ALD boards, because not many people had them. I think they came out at a time when everyone else had abandoned 486s.

Did you know the ALD chipset can supposedly do pipelined burst cache? At least according to the manual. The picture of the board you showed us is using async cache, but one time I actually did find an ALD board with the PLB modules fitted. Unfortunately it was already gone when I went back to buy it.

I believe they actually did make their own chipset, and the user manual should be on the website.

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V'Ger XT|Upgraded AT|Ultimate 386|Super VL/EISA 486|SMP VL/EISA Pentium

Reply 5 of 7, by noshutdown

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Anonymous Coward wrote:

I've always been very interested in these ALD boards, because not many people had them. I think they came out at a time when everyone else had abandoned 486s.

Did you know the ALD chipset can supposedly do pipelined burst cache? At least according to the manual. The picture of the board you showed us is using async cache, but one time I actually did find an ALD board with the PLB modules fitted. Unfortunately it was already gone when I went back to buy it.

I believe they actually did make their own chipset, and the user manual should be on the website.

i don't know much about this so how to indicate cache modes? does it depend on different types of sram chips installed, or decided by the chipset? which type does common 486 chipsets(intel, sis, umc, ali, via) use? i can only remember that most socket7 chipsets used pipeline-burst cache.

Reply 6 of 7, by fsinan

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I have one of those boards, came without bios chip and sram modules, I've downloaded the bios from retroweb and installed srams but it still does not recognize the external cache.

Is there an alternative bios source that I can find another bios? This bios seems to fake cache functionality at all.

System:1
Cyrix 5x86-120GP & X5-160ADZ
Lucky Star LS-486E
System:2
Intel DX4-WB & AMDDX4-120
PcChips M912 V1.7
System:3
AMD K6-2-475 & Cyrix 6x86MX PR-233
Asus P5A-B
System:4
UMC U5S-40
486UL-P101
System:5
P3 Coppermine 800EB
Gigabyte GA-6BX7

Reply 7 of 7, by Anonymous Coward

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I eventually managed to get one of the ALD PCI boards that can accept the PLB cache, but like yours mine also does not have the chips installed and has the BIOS that fakes the presence of cache. I didn't get a chance to play with it much, because something went bad and the board is very unstable.
However, there is another user on these forums that got one with the cache chips fitted, and his cache is functional.
The downside is that after extensive testing it was determined that the board isn't really able to take advantage of the features of PLB cache and performance is rather mediocre.

"Will the highways on the internets become more few?" -Gee Dubya
V'Ger XT|Upgraded AT|Ultimate 386|Super VL/EISA 486|SMP VL/EISA Pentium