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First post, by Tempest

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I sort of have a thing for IBM brand PC's, I just love the way they look. I've attempted to use a PS/2 486/DX2 as a gaming rig before, but the lack of sound card (MCA sound cards are like hens teeth) is a big problem. However today I was looking around the back junk room here at work and I see they have a IBM PC 350. I think this one is a Pentium 133 (I'd have to check the model number on the back) and uses normal ISA cards (none of that MCA crap). How decent is a PC 350 for gaming? I believe the video card is integrated into the system so I'm not sure how well that will work, but I honestly don't plan on playing many 3D heavy games on it (mostly RPGs and Adventure games).

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Reply 2 of 29, by PeterLI

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I had one of those. Very nice for 486 - early Pentium era games.

Reply 3 of 29, by GL1zdA

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Tempest wrote:

uses normal ISA cards (none of that MCA crap)

I've loled.

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Reply 4 of 29, by Tempest

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PeterLI wrote:

I had one of those. Very nice for 486 - early Pentium era games.

That's the era I'm going for. I may have to snag it then.

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Reply 5 of 29, by Tempest

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Turns out there are two back in the room. One is a 6587-LBV which is a Pentium 200 and the other is a 6586-79T which is a Pentium 133 according to its label. The Pentium 200 could be interesting, hopefully it won't make 386/486 style games run too fast.

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Reply 6 of 29, by PeterLI

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Good luck! Some 386 / 486 will run too fast on any Pentium / K6.

Reply 7 of 29, by Tempest

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PeterLI wrote:

Good luck! Some 386 / 486 will run too fast on any Pentium / K6.

Yeah I think I need to get a 386 or 486 as well if I want to cover all my bases. Unfortunately there's only so much space... 😀

I do have my eye on a PS/2 486 Tower, but that's not in the junk pile yet (why I don't know). I know MCA is a bitch to find cards for, but I love the way it looks.

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Reply 8 of 29, by Tempest

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Ok dumb question, but how do I remove the drive bay covers (the blank panels that cover the unused drive bays)? I want to add a CD rom and 5.25" drive to this system but for the life of me I can't figure out how those covers come off. Normally they just sort of pop out with a little force, but they're not budging. I can't see any tabs or anything that's holding them into the case either. I'm afraid to really force anything because I don't want to damage the front bezel in the process. Any ideas?

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Reply 9 of 29, by pewpewpew

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possibly useful?

A search for 'IBM PC 350 bay panel' turned up "Installing Options in Your Personal Computer PC 330 (Type 6577) and PC 350 (Type 6587)", but the site hosting the PDF is down right now.
http://ps-2.kev009.com/pccbbs/commercial_desktop/6577io.pdf

If i seach the google cache version for 'bay panel' i find

10 If you installed a drive other than a hard disk
drive, remove the bay panel for bay 2.
Notes:
a. To remove the front panel, tap lightly against
each end of the panel using a small tool.
b. You might want to save the panel in case you
need to use it again.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search? … &hl=en&&ct=clnk

Reply 10 of 29, by Tempest

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I got them off, but I basically had to break the posts that held them in. There was no way those were coming out with a little tap. Oh well, they're out now. 😀

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Reply 11 of 29, by Tempest

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Ok quick graphics card question. The system currently has a Trio 64V+ card in it, but I found two other cards laying around which may or may not be better:

Matrox 590-05 (Millennium)
Matrox 576-04 (Millennium?)

Are either of these better than my Trio 64V+?

I also found these two cards but I think they're way too new for this system:

Geforce2 MX400
Dell Nvidia 32MB

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Reply 13 of 29, by Tempest

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That gives me some helpful descriptions. Thank you.

I'm still not sure which card to use though. It appears that the Geforce 2 MX400 is probably the best card, but it might be overkill for the system. I'm looking for best compatibility with games that will run on a Pentium 200 MMX which would be games from 95 to early 2000ish I'd think. The wiki seems to indicate that the Trio is good for DOS games, but some of the games I'd be playing are Windows 95/98 based. Still not sure.

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Reply 15 of 29, by Tempest

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Did I post to wrong forum? Feel free to move it if you can.

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Reply 16 of 29, by ODwilly

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For the video card from what I have read around here the Nvidia cards tend to work great for DOS and 9x both. You could also take the heatsink off of the Dell Nvidia card to find out what model it is if the numbers on it dont turn up anything. May be another MX card, may be something better you never know!

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Reply 17 of 29, by Stiletto

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Moved to Marvin.

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Reply 18 of 29, by Tempest

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ODwilly wrote:

For the video card from what I have read around here the Nvidia cards tend to work great for DOS and 9x both. You could also take the heatsink off of the Dell Nvidia card to find out what model it is if the numbers on it dont turn up anything. May be another MX card, may be something better you never know!

If I take off the heatsink how do I get it back on again?

I remember using a Matrox Millennium card on my rig during that time period and had no problems. That was the updated option that Gateway had (which is where I got my PC from). I have no experience with the Trio card. I may put that GeForce in my Pentium 3 windows xp system as it seems more appropriate there.

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Reply 19 of 29, by ODwilly

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If there are no tabs then it is probably stuck on with thermal adhesive. Most likely just another mx card or maybe a TNT or TNT2

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