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First post, by Roman78

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I'm planning to make a video capture PC again, for capturing some VHS tapes. I have the choice of 2 different cards. The Mirco DC30 and the Matrox marvel G450 e-TV.

Now the question is which one to use? From the CD30 I only have the card and no software, cables e.t.c. And from the Marvel I have everything cause I bought it new in a box back in 2001. Although the specs of the marvel says it should capture up to 1024 x 768, 1280 x 720 I only remember a capture of 704x576 (which is enough for a VHS capture).

Than the OS question: Windows or Mac? The Marvel is a AGP card and only works on Windows (98 and 2000), the Miro is PCI and also works on Windows as on Mac OS 9 (and OSX whit custom drivers and software).

Than the other hardware, for the Miro I would have a PowerMac G3 or G4 between 233 and 866 Mhz (card won't fit in a G5). For the Marvel I would have some more choices, like Pentium II, III, IV, Althlon XP in a range from 400 up to 2667 mhz. (even have some faster CPU's but no mainboard to support it or whit no AGP).

So what card would give the best results on what OS and hardware?

Reply 1 of 4, by PhilsComputerLab

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Likely not what you want to hear, but I would just a USB capture device and use it on a modern PC. Will save you a lot of hassle and time.

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Reply 2 of 4, by Roman78

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nah that's no fun....

(and cost money)

I'm thinking of using an Asus A7V333 board whit some Athlon XP (must also have some of those somewhere here), 1 or 2 gig of ram and 2 IDE drives in Hardware Raid 0 (the A7V333 has a Promise raid controller on board). And Windows 2000. (all this stuff I have here somewhere. And also thinking about to mod this into a SGI Virtual Workstation 320: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Visual_Workstation).

Reply 3 of 4, by NJRoadfan

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For VHS tapes? Neither.

The Matrox card never got properly working capture drivers for 2000/XP. I think the story is the same for the DC30 (lists NT4 only), I can honestly say any hardware Pinnacle has made caused me grief in the past, even in supported configurations. Why bother with silly RAID when a modern IDE/SATA drive can capture without a problem? My backup capture rig runs an ATI All-in-Wonder 9600XT with a Northwood HT 2.8Ghz and a WD 120GB HD. Captures lossless compressed HuffYUV video without a problem. Pentium IIIs and below don't have the I/O throughput to do that, period.

Macs were never recommended for analog video capture due to weak capture hardware and software. Apple wanted everyone to capture DV.

Find a cheap ATI AIW AGP card and throw it in the Athlon XP (which is period correct). Just make sure it comes with all the cables.

Reply 4 of 4, by Roman78

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Well I remember that I used the marvel to record TV from an analogue Sat receiver using win2k. I bought the card on 16 may 2001 (also kept the bill, so I know the exact date), and later I bought 2 80 gig harddisks and put those in a hardware stripe (think it was on an A7V133, later replaced by the A7V333 and than for a A7V8X). And because it was 2001 I can't hardly think that I used W98. But installing W98 could also be an option if W2k has to many problems.

But anyhow. I found an Athlon XP1500+ (1333 Mhz) and installed it on the A7V333, And installed W2K for testing on it. At this moment on a single harddisk, WD 160 Gig. Today I will benchmark it and than use a second 160 and put it on a stripe. And even today whit faster harddrives, making a stripe is always faster, maybe even a SSD stripe do to the limitations of the SATA III bus.

But I also know that I used the DC30 in an G4 MDD dual 1.42 Ghz whit OS 10.3 or 10.4, whit alternative software, because the Pinnacle software for the DC30 only works on the Classic OS,