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First post, by brostenen

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Hi all.
In the haul I did, there is an Asus A7V266-E. Is this a keeper or should I sell it?
It's got some sort of VIA chipset, and AGP-Pro, and room for 3 (I think) DDR-266 sticks.
And then just a really great bunch of jumper's and dip-switches.
It has 4 IDE-Channels, so it may have some RAID capability. (Have not read any manual. Yet)

If it is something to use or play with, then what makes it a nice board then?

Edit...
Yesterday, I had it POST'ing, so I think it might be working. There is life on the monitor after all. 😀
You just never know, if something else is dead or partially working, and depending on what
people say about this board, I will test further in order to keep/sell. If it's garbage, it will be thrown out.

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Reply 1 of 19, by kanecvr

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I'd keep it just for the 3.3V AGP pro slot and DDR support. It's a VIA KT266 chipset. The KT266 and KT333 chipsets are the only socket A boards to be able to support 3.3V AGP or Universal AGP (3.3V / 1.5V) so you can use Voodoo 3 and Voodoo 5 cards in them.

I have a Voodoo 3 3500TV Rig with a Gigabyte KT333, 512MB DDR and an Athlon XP 2400+ and it rocks all Glide games.

Reply 2 of 19, by brostenen

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Hmmm.... Perhaps this should go through a test then. Sounds like a good board at first.
The universal-agp part is perhaps what is the definitive feature that makes me want to keep it.
Other than that, I am really not that interrested in Socket-A systems.

I might just sell the Asus P5A rev. 1.03 that I got, instead of this board then.
I have a "P5A Rev. 1.06" a "FIC-PA2013" and a "Gigabyte GA-5AX rev. 4.1" too.
The problem is that I really adore Socket Super 7. It's my most beloved platform of all time.
So... Sell one SS7 board or sell one Socket-A. Tough choice.

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Reply 3 of 19, by oerk

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Working Socket A boards without leaking capacitors are always worth keeping, IMO.

And the KT266 is not a bad chipset, despite it's reputation.

Reply 4 of 19, by brostenen

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Just had a quick spec's-googling. The chipset is not 266. It's 266-A.
Is this an advantage or an disadvantage. As I really have no knowledge of via-chipset's from this era.

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Reply 5 of 19, by brostenen

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oerk wrote:

Working Socket A boards without leaking capacitors are always worth keeping, IMO.

And the KT266 is not a bad chipset, despite it's reputation.

The board looks brand new. No dust. No leaking cap's and not a scratch.
Even the cooler on the board has nearly no dust, despite it's running pretty fast.
Noisy as hell. Yet keep the cpu nice and cold.

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Reply 6 of 19, by oerk

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The KT266A is the successor to the KT266 with better memory performance. So definitely an advantage.

And the KT266(A) is the first Athlon chipset to utilize DDR memory, i.e. not bottlenecking the CPU.

And if the caps are okay - definitely worth keeping!

Reply 7 of 19, by brostenen

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oerk wrote:

And if the caps are okay - definitely worth keeping!

They are... It look's new. 😀
So.... Off my P5A Rev. 1.03 goes then.... (With some K6-? 233/3XX-mhz cpu)

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Reply 8 of 19, by brostenen

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I just took some photo's of the board, if anyone is interrested...

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Reply 9 of 19, by oerk

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Nice! I had the Abit equivalent back then - died 🙁 Then I had a used Asus A7V333 - died shortly after the Abit 🙁

One of those I killed with stupidity (inserting a stick of RAM the wrong way). Can't remember which one though.

Reply 10 of 19, by FGB

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kanecvr wrote:

I'd keep it just for the 3.3V AGP pro slot and DDR support. It's a VIA KT266 chipset. The KT266 and KT333 chipsets are the only socket A boards to be able to support 3.3V AGP or Universal AGP (3.3V / 1.5V) so you can use Voodoo 3 and Voodoo 5 cards in them.

I have a Voodoo 3 3500TV Rig with a Gigabyte KT333, 512MB DDR and an Athlon XP 2400+ and it rocks all Glide games.

KT266/KT333 are not the only chipsets with 3.3V / Universal AGP in combination with DDR-RAM.

SiS made the (in)famous and performant 735 and the 745 singlechips (there are also other chipsets for Intel CPUs)
The SiS singlechips also support DDR, 3.3V AGP, AthlonXP and are widely available with and without blown caps 🤣

Regarding the SiS 735: I have several ECS K7S5A Boards in my colection, selected from quite a few. Very fast, stability also very ok, they have a kind of "cult" status here in Germany and were known for their excellent price/performance ratio back in the day. It was a bestseller and the forums are still filled up with many threads about the board, discussing overclocking, stability issues, mod BIOSes and so on. K7S5A, XP2600+ and Voodoo5 ? No prob at all.

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Reply 11 of 19, by HighTreason

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Meanwhile, it was a different story here. The PCChips M830/K7S5A was a very common board and the bane of every technician's existence. They were unstable, slow and lacked correct support for anything better than the Athlon 1400 which it could not provide with adequate power anyway, regardless of what PSU was used. The AGP slots were similar and failed to run larger GPUs well, they also had serious problems in Windows 98SE which every gamer was using at the time because XP ran like shit by comparison. I have never seen one capable of running an Athlon 2600 regardless of what BIOS it has installed, they seem to max out around the 2100+ and then they were very unstable. Luckily the boards had short lifespans so we didn't see them for too long. I can't speak for the V5 because nobody in their right mind ever used one. I have two K7S5A boards and I never use either of them because they simply do not work in the real world, their only possible use back then would be as a cheap Duron box, but as I myself ran a Duron 750 in one for a time and it still died in a very short space of time which is why I ended up with an MSI KT3 Ultra2... Which was better, and lets face it, if you are getting beaten by MSI you are doing something wrong.

In general, I actually like ECS when they make their own boards, but this re-badged PCChips one was not very goodl

Still, Germany is the country that liked the FIC 486-VIP, so you guys obviously have different opinions on these matters. There are also at least 5 versions of the K7S5A board that I know to exist so perhaps we only had access to a specific revision which wasn't very good - I have only ever seen V1.1 boards outside of photos anyway. Perhaps later revisions were better. Even here, though, there were small groups of people who swore by the board... People I hated because idiots would pay them to build a machine, the machine wouldn't work so the owner would end up bringing it to me to "fix" and then throw a fit when I told them "Your motherboard simply sucks ass, I will have to replace that if you want to get rid of the instability." as if it was my fault.

As for the KT266, the only board I have used for an extended amount of time with these was a Soltek. It wasn't bad and it did what it was supposed to do, but that's all I can really say for it. Never had notable issues with any of the KT266 boards I worked on for anyone either. I'd say the ASUS board was probably one of the better Athlon boards from that time, then, simply because it still works and the KT266 was a decent platform.

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Reply 12 of 19, by FGB

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I agree the K7S5A had a big quality span.
Many of them were not stable when the board hit the market. But stability got better with later revisions, revision 3.1 was a good one, much better than previous ones that just got "revision upgrades" with new stickers covering older revision numbers but without actual hardware change. I had one Rev 3.1 board running as my main gaming rig with an XP2000+ Tbred OCd to XP2400+ and it actually worked very well with a GF3Ti200 64MB. But this board was very picky about RAM and reacted very sensitive on RAM timings. I don't remember how much RAM i got, but I think I had 2 sticks of 256MB CL2 DDR. I remember playing Battlefield 1942 for hours and also Need for Speed Underground with my friends. When the board was already outdated, ECS came up with "Pro" revisions carrying Rev. No. 5 (there was no Rev. 4). But I don't know anything about this last revision because I already upgraded this computer to an AsRock K7S8XE with a Barton with a GF5900XT 128MB / later a Radeon 9800.

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Reply 13 of 19, by noshutdown

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brostenen wrote:
oerk wrote:

And if the caps are okay - definitely worth keeping!

They are... It look's new. 😀
So.... Off my P5A Rev. 1.03 goes then.... (With some K6-? 233/3XX-mhz cpu)

same with me... i have no love for the p5a at all, the 5ax is a better ali5 board with no major drawbacks, but i would prefer the pa2013 best if i have them all.

Reply 14 of 19, by brostenen

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noshutdown wrote:
brostenen wrote:
oerk wrote:

And if the caps are okay - definitely worth keeping!

They are... It look's new. 😀
So.... Off my P5A Rev. 1.03 goes then.... (With some K6-? 233/3XX-mhz cpu)

same with me... i have no love for the p5a at all, the 5ax is a better ali5 board with no major drawbacks, but i would prefer the pa2013 best if i have them all.

I love the P5A. I have version 1.04 or was it 1.06, as I explained earlier in this tread (can't remember the version, and it is part of my FanBoy)
It's the second P5A that I have, that I will be selling instead of the A7V266-E.
And as I explained. I simply love the SS7 platform. And the P5A is one of the top-dog's. I like the GA-5AX and the PA-2013 as well.

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Reply 15 of 19, by noshutdown

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brostenen wrote:

I love the P5A. I have version 1.04 or was it 1.06, as I explained earlier in this tread (can't remember the version, and it is part of my FanBoy)
It's the second P5A that I have, that I will be selling instead of the A7V266-E.
And as I explained. I simply love the SS7 platform. And the P5A is one of the top-dog's. I like the GA-5AX and the PA-2013 as well.

i just don't understand why some ppl see p5a as a great board, to me its a rashly designed buggy board.
i rate 5ax as the best board of ali5 chipset, but even its performance can't match that of mvp3 models with 2mb cache.

Reply 16 of 19, by brostenen

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I like the P5A. Never had any issues at all.

Anyway.
What GFX to run on a A7V266-E?
I have a GF4-ti4200 and a Radeon 9600.
The OS will be 2K or XP.

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Reply 17 of 19, by noshutdown

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brostenen wrote:
I like the P5A. Never had any issues at all. […]
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I like the P5A. Never had any issues at all.

Anyway.
What GFX to run on a A7V266-E?
I have a GF4-ti4200 and a Radeon 9600.
The OS will be 2K or XP.

either would do but i would prefer the 9600, as it can run some newer dx9 games, which is what an athlonxp should do.

Reply 18 of 19, by kanecvr

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FGB wrote:
KT266/KT333 are not the only chipsets with 3.3V / Universal AGP in combination with DDR-RAM. […]
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kanecvr wrote:

I'd keep it just for the 3.3V AGP pro slot and DDR support. It's a VIA KT266 chipset. The KT266 and KT333 chipsets are the only socket A boards to be able to support 3.3V AGP or Universal AGP (3.3V / 1.5V) so you can use Voodoo 3 and Voodoo 5 cards in them.

I have a Voodoo 3 3500TV Rig with a Gigabyte KT333, 512MB DDR and an Athlon XP 2400+ and it rocks all Glide games.

KT266/KT333 are not the only chipsets with 3.3V / Universal AGP in combination with DDR-RAM.

SiS made the (in)famous and performant 735 and the 745 singlechips (there are also other chipsets for Intel CPUs)
The SiS singlechips also support DDR, 3.3V AGP, AthlonXP and are widely available with and without blown caps 🤣

Regarding the SiS 735: I have several ECS K7S5A Boards in my colection, selected from quite a few. Very fast, stability also very ok, they have a kind of "cult" status here in Germany and were known for their excellent price/performance ratio back in the day. It was a bestseller and the forums are still filled up with many threads about the board, discussing overclocking, stability issues, mod BIOSes and so on. K7S5A, XP2600+ and Voodoo5 ? No prob at all.

Most SiS boards I've come across have a physical 1.5v agp slot even if the chipset supports 3.3v. I've seen very few anyway, and even fewer have universal agp or 3.3v agp.

Reply 19 of 19, by Scali

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I have that board, and for some reason it has never been 100% stable here.
Every few days it may just randomly freeze. It just freezes, no bluescreen or anything. Just dead-in-the-water.
Other than that it works fine and performance is great.

I have two very similar systems, one MSI K7T-Turbo with VIA KT133A chipset, and this Asus, and a Thunderbird 1400 and XP1800+ CPUs.
The K7T-turbo is 100% stable with both CPUs.
I have tried swapping all components around, such as case, PSU, CPU and videocard, so it has to be the combination of motherboard and memory. Not entirely sure which of the two is the root cause, since I have no other DDR-based systems.

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